If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

67℅ of Labour supporters voted Remain, actually.

But don't let facts get in the way of your propaganda.

Mate.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

67℅ of Labour supporters voted Remain, actually.

That's the problem. Labour vote has dropped under Corbyns management. Out of touch with those at the bottom of the heap as you call them.

cells

mwpt wrote: »

The way to solve that is to stop creating so many jobs in the SE so that people don't come here. I mean, you can ban foreigners but how are you going to stop people from elsewhere in the UK coming to the SE?

This is a problem few seem to realise. If one looks at Bulgaria its pretty much screwed with its population expected to decline to half of what it is. Already its declined quite a lot but its capital city hasn't.

So of brexit results in a flat population I would still expect the SE and London to grow however the other regions will shrink

The_Last_Username

sheffield_lad wrote: »

As many know the issue with triggering article 50 is the cards are stacked against us. Yet Junker has made it clear no negotiation before the trigger. This is bad not only for the UK but for world trade.

So, should the UK request the help of a broker for the Brexit deal such as the IMF?

The deal would still go before the euro parliament but such brokered talks could be possible well before March and it would be in the IMF's interest for the UK to negotiate a deal which involves us staying in the single trading zone and making that clear to world business?

Seriously?

Juncker is facing being sued for what is being seen as an illegal stance:

The ban is unlawful and is harming the rights and interests of all EU citizens right now

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jean-claude-juncker-faces-legal-challenge-from-british-expat-over-brexit-talks-ban_uk_57f902bfe4b01fa2b9042570?qzc7r1jzt7624eu3di&utm_hp_ref=uk

As for a broker, why?
More so if you are seriously considering the IMF with it's French MD Christine Lagarde, who is obviously not only pro-EU but is also facing legal proceedings for "Alleged Negligence" herself regarding payments of over 400 million Euros to Nicolas Sarkozy.

For many reasons (just some of which I say in earlier posts), I suspect that "The deal" will not be as bad as many are expecting.

Rinoa

Oz trade negotiators already in UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/08/australian-negotiators-arrive-to-begin-post-brexit-trade-talks/

ruggedtoast

Rinoa wrote: »

Oz trade negotiators already in UK.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/08/australian-negotiators-arrive-to-begin-post-brexit-trade-talks/

Oh thank god, we're saved.

I was worried we were going to lose access to the biggest free trade area on the planet with a population of 350 million people, but it's fine now because Australia, with a population about the same size Netherlands, has stepped up to sell us minerals and metal, for all that heavy industry we have.

I also remember once having a novelty coin purse made out of a kangaroo scrotum, I lost it somewhere, maybe it can finally be replaced.

gfplux

ruggedtoast wrote: »

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/07/every-eu-migrant-can-stay-after-brexit-600000-will-be-given-amne/

All EU nationals to be guaranteed residency if they are here already.

Thank god for that small piece of sanity amidst the Brexit maelstrom anyway.

I was reading this over on the Daily Mail. Half of me was revelling in triumph at the wails of impotent fury from the creatures who comment on its message board, that all our EU friends and colleagues aren't about to be rounded up and deported on trains, and never will be.

The other half of me despaired that such creatures exist, and that there are so many of them in this little inward looking country.

Frankly I don't believe it, yet.
Nor do all the EU nationals working in the UK.
Until the ink is dry on the agreement fear and uncertainty lives with all of them and all the UK citizens living elsewhere in the EU.

Rinoa

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh thank god, we're saved.

I was worried we were going to lose access to the biggest free trade area on the planet with a population of 350 million people, but it's fine now because Australia, with a population about the same size Netherlands, has stepped up to sell us minerals and metal, for all that heavy industry we have.

I also remember once having a novelty coin purse made out of a kangaroo scrotum, I lost it somewhere, maybe it can finally be replaced.

Trade deals with rest of the world aren't a replacement for EU trade, they're in addition.

Even if we trade on WTO terms that's an average tariff of 4%. It's peanuts. Not going to make much difference to EU trade.

The £ has lost around 13% against the euro making most EU goods 13% more expensive in theory. So, have we stopped buying from the EU? Of course we haven't.

ruggedtoast

More confirmation this time from the Independent.

5/6 can't be deported anyway and an 'amnesty' being given to the rest.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-latest-nationals-uk-stay-immigration-a7351446.html

The comments are more enlightening tham those of the wailing UKIP cretins on the Daily Mail.

Amnesty? How very kind of the UK. Those horrible lazy suspicious EU foreigners will be pardoned for their despicable crime of daring to come to the UK to work.

Here is a dose of reality in the Guardian from a Swedish journalist:

"The Tory party conference rhetoric made for queasy reading. Every European country has its share of politicians rubbishing foreigners, but NO SITTING GOVERNMENT HAS GONE AS FAR AS THIS: OPENLY TARGETING LEGAL, WORKING, TAXPAYING NON-NATIONALS."

Hilarious. Our economy is tanking, jobs will be lost and going on holiday will cost a small fortune. And for what? Nothing, it seems. What a pathetic joke.

In response to some UKIP clod complaining that they can stay while he can't get a visa for his mail order wife.

Are you daft? That rule was made by the Tories, and we've just given them free reign to do what they want. It's going to become even harder for your wife to join you - and that's on you and idiots like you.

So the brexit was a waste of time. And these imbeciles are running the country. Politicians are finished.

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10 hours ago
chrisw27
So it's taken them three and a half months to do this simple piece of arithmetic? They just haven't got a clue what they are doing.
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1 hour ago
Steve Hill
They knew the numbers well enough. The issue is how to spoonfeed the bad news to the rabid Brexiteers in easy, manageable, understandable portions.

Maybe the utter pointlessness of what they have done might start to sink into the thick skulls of the Brexiteers now.

setmefree2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Maybe the utter pointlessness of what they have done might start to sink into the thick skulls of the Brexiteers now.

Right back at you for voting for Corbyn.