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Discrimination on Boarding / Additional Travel ID

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  • GwylimT
    GwylimT Posts: 6,530 Forumite
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    Yolina wrote: »
    Don't British passports have the address then? I'm French and my passport has my address. I was under the impression that EU passports were standardised, but I may well be mistaken.

    No, as otherwise you would have to renew each time you moved home, otherwise the address section would be pointless. However the persons address when they apply is part of their information which can be gained, but isn't automatically available when scanned at the airport etc.
  • Yolina
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    edited 10 January 2016 at 9:08PM
    GwylimT wrote: »
    No, as otherwise you would have to renew each time you moved home, otherwise the address section would be pointless. However the persons address when they apply is part of their information which can be gained, but isn't automatically available when scanned at the airport etc.

    See with us, both passport and ID card have the address, though it's not compulsory to get new ones when you move - however if you do then AFAIK there's no charge to get updated documents (ID card is free anyway)
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  • GwylimT wrote: »
    On non-domestic flights a driving card is not considered ID, it really is that simple. The member of staff in OPs case broke aviation regulation.

    There are no aviation regulations that prohibit an airline from asking for secondary identification from a passenger who wishes to travel on an international flight provided that the passenger concerned has complied with providing the minimum ID that is legally required for the flight.

    If an airline wishes to write it into their conditions of travel that any or all passengers must show a valid driving licence or a copy of a utility bill to prove their residence status, then they are entitled to do this providing that the requirements are not carried out in a way that is discriminatory towards one or more particular races or classes of passengers.
  • peachyprice
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    edited 10 January 2016 at 9:21PM
    Yolina wrote: »
    Don't British passports have the address then? I'm French and my passport has my address. I was under the impression that EU passports were standardised, but I may well be mistaken.


    No they don't, airline staff have no access to that information unless you have been security flagged, then all your info will flash up when your passport is scanned.

    So it's not unreasonable, especially after recent events in France, that a passenger might be asked for additional ID to distinguish them from a flagged person with the same/similar name.
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  • burnoutbabe
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    I get the impression the OP didn't think they had any other form of ID on them at the time.

    I know I don't travel with anything apart from my passport - no driving license and not going to have any utility bills on me either. So I'd have no choice but to argue about why it was needed.
  • mgdavid
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    I get the impression the OP didn't think they had any other form of ID on them at the time.

    I know I don't travel with anything apart from my passport - no driving license and not going to have any utility bills on me either. So I'd have no choice but to argue about why it was needed.

    Wrong impression then; have you read the whole thread? The OP was not 'denied boarding' despite the totally incorrect thread title!
    We don't know what *additional* ID would have been accepted, it may have been something as simple as a credit/debit card, or an EHIC card or a printed copy of travel insurance. You do take travel insurance details with you, don't you?
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  • mgdavid
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    edited 11 January 2016 at 2:34AM
    tomtontom wrote: »
    You've not answered the question. If the OP couldn't provide any additional ID would it be right that they were denied boarding based on some made up requirement, or should they have been allowed to board making the made up requirement pointless?

    I wasn't asked a question, and as it is hypothetical I'm not going to attempt an answer either.
    By digressing from the facts to the surreal you have demonstrated a lack of common sense, as I suspected.
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  • GwylimT wrote: »
    Unless it is a domestic flight airlines are not allowed to accept a driving card under any circumstance

    That statement is incorrect as I occasionally fly from London to Dublin (which is an international flight) and a valid UK or Irish driving licence is acceptable as proof of identity provided that you are either a UK or ROI citizen.
  • Voyager2002
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    That statement is incorrect as I occasionally fly from London to Dublin (which is an international flight) and a valid UK or Irish driving licence is acceptable as proof of identity provided that you are either a UK or ROI citizen.

    Legally, that is a journey within the Common Travel Area and so is very different from an international flight.
  • photome
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    mgdavid wrote: »
    do you live your life to the letter of regulations or do you use common sense? Or perhaps you are under 40 where the latter seems in short supply compared with older folk. :D

    what common sense are you talking about.

    many people only have one form of ID me included
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