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It's not grim up North!

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
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    Good to see the North becoming a bit less grim. Northern Powerhouse anyone?

    What does this phrase Northern Powerhouse actually mean?

    If you reach a wind turbine density of 1 per 5sq km are you half way there? :)

    It was obvious in the past.

    Manchester and surrounding was a major centre for textile production amongst other things. Sheffield had steel etc.

    It's easy to measure when you make 90% of the worlds widget-X's. But how do we measure it here in today's UK?
  • gadgetmind
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    I was there just before Christmas for office bash (1000+ people), the Wildlife Photography exhibition and the Cosmonauts exhibition at the Science Museum. We also went to Borough Market and spent £50 on cheese, but we did leave with more cash than we walking in with. Very hand that they've got a cash point in there.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

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  • gadgetmind
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    What does this phrase Northern Powerhouse actually mean?

    Dunno even though I'm supposed to be living in one!
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • cells
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    the regions should have their own centres for banking and finance, accountancy and legal, media and arts, politics and business.

    London got rich by hoovering up those industries from the other regions and is getting richer by slowly convincing the rest of the world that they too should not concentrate on those things and hand it over for London to do for them
  • gadgetmind
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    cells wrote: »
    the regions should have their own centres for banking and finance, accountancy and legal, media and arts, politics and business.

    Um, we do, they're called "cities".

    We have everything on your list aplenty, except politics. London can keep that nonsense.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • Spidernick
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    Yes. Up North we spend it on beer (or Buckfast if you go too far). Down South you spend it on shandy.

    The 'shandy-drinking Southerner' is, of course, an urban myth and many of us like proper beer as much as the rest of the country. The oldest brewery in the country is based just a few miles down the road from where I grew up in Kent:

    http://www.pub-explorer.com/realale/shepherdneame.htm
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  • kinger101
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    Spidernick wrote: »
    The 'shandy-drinking Southerner' is, of course, an urban myth and many of us like proper beer as much as the rest of the country. The oldest brewery in the country is based just a few miles down the road from where I grew up in Kent:

    http://www.pub-explorer.com/realale/shepherdneame.htm

    Shepherd Neame is one of my favourites. In fact, Kent is where all the British hop vatieties were developed. 15 years ago, you'd struggle to find decent ale in London though. It's trendy with the bearded folk of Hackney now, though 90% of the beers seem to imitations of Californian Pale Ales (like Sierra Nevada).
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  • kinger101
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    chris_m wrote: »
    Now there's a question - how far North does one need to go to get a decent black pud?
    I'm currently classed by Northern friends as a Southern Softie but soon to be a Northern Incomer and, I'm advised, in 20 years or so might get to be an Honorary Northerner - and my view on black pud is that you need to go almost as far north and almost as far west as one can to get the best. My mate from Lancashire reckons the Bury type is best, but I'd go for Stornoway every time.

    Stornoway for me too. I only discovered it a couple of years ago in a deli here in Yorkshire. Anything else is a disappointment now.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • kabayiri wrote: »
    I know that back in the 80s the fair people of Hull used to be the best savers in the whole country, as a percentage of income.

    Now does that make them super MSE-savvy or a bunch of tight wads, who knows.

    Interesting report below.

    Just reinforces (to me) the press just looking for headlines and not appreciating that its disposable income which matters most not merely top line salary.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35400872
  • kabayiri
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    Interesting report below.

    Just reinforces (to me) the press just looking for headlines and not appreciating that its disposable income which matters most not merely top line salary.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35400872

    The answer is obvious. Build lots more houses with specific focus around London, Reading, Aldershot then.

    Clearly people have the income to buy these houses if they are available in volume. Plenty of space around Reading and Aldershot.

    They are building 70K - 100K houses around West Yorkshire corridor. Why, if people can't afford them? The demand for the labourers and brickies is down in the capital/SE.

    London has plenty of green space. Extra housing is purely a matter of choice for people living there. Maybe there is conflicted NIMBYism going on.
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