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cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

am aware of the science.

does it affect your view of immigration, distribution of income, tolerance of religious based killing, homophobia, the EU, nuclear weapons or any other social matter, global warming, the price of oil, scottish independence ?

it makes me more accepting of social policies than I otherwise would be


a lot of your points I think are intentionally trying to muddy the water. Homophobia or women rights or religious based killings do you disprove or approve of them when done by your direct family as opposed to your indirect family? stupid isnt it. you either disapprove or approve of them irrespective of who carries it out.

You will jump in saying yes but foreigners are more likely to do those things. Maybe that is true but your grandparents were more likely to do those things too do you go around telling them off? If immigrants do have those negative tenancies I would say its only for one generation and virtually every time it will be thoughts in their minds not actions taken and even if it is action taken it will by far be more likely action within their communities. the overall risk is lower for them here than 'back home' if its your idea to reduce that sort of thing

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

You should make it your signature clapton.

Clapton 'I however, see my family, as worth quite a lot.'

Cells 'We are all related according to both science and religion'

Clapton 'I however, see my direct family, as worth quite a lot, and my distant family, as worth very little'



To be fair on you, most people truly do see even their close direct blood family as not worth a lot (eg cousins uncles aunts) to the extent that they are almost strangers. Hell some people are like that with their mother/father/sibling so I cant blame you for thinking/feeling that way

You are making a direct quote of something I HAVE NOT SAID.
Please withdraw.

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

it makes me more accepting of social policies than I otherwise would be


a lot of your points I think are intentionally trying to muddy the water. Homophobia or women rights or religious based killings do you disprove or approve of them when done by your direct family as opposed to your indirect family? stupid isnt it. you either disapprove or approve of them irrespective of who carries it out.

You will jump in saying yes but foreigners are more likely to do those things. Maybe that is true but your grandparents were more likely to do those things too do you go around telling them off? If immigrants do have those negative tenancies I would say its only for one generation and virtually every time it will be thoughts in their minds not actions taken and even if it is action taken it will by far be more likely action within their communities. the overall risk is lower for them here than 'back home' if its your idea to reduce that sort of thing

I HAVE NOT SAID WHAT YOU ATTRIBUTE TO ME
Please withdraw.

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

You are making a direct quote of something I HAVE NOT SAID.
Please withdraw.

I have deleted it but I think it was more than fair to come to the conclusion that you think the following 'I however, see my direct family, as worth quite a lot, and my distant family, as worth very little'

You can state that is not your view if you like, but I believe It will be a lie because that statement holds true for the vast majority of people (>99.9% as a guess) so you may well be the 0.1% it does not apply to but probably not. Again nothing stopping you from stating that you value your distant relatives highly.

CLAPTON wrote: »

I HAVE NOT SAID WHAT YOU ATTRIBUTE TO ME
Please withdraw.

what parts?

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

I have deleted it but I think it was more than fair to come to the conclusion that you think the following 'I however, see my direct family, as worth quite a lot, and my distant family, as worth very little'

You can state that is not your view if you like, but I believe It will be a lie because that statement holds true for the vast majority of people (>99.9% as a guess) so you may well be the 0.1% it does not apply to but probably not. Again nothing stopping you from stating that you value your distant relatives highly.


what parts?

If you put something in the first person singular and attribute that falsely to me then that is a LIE.

You may make any number of fatuous, facile, one dimensional views that you like but I don't want them attached to me.

I am quite capable of posting nonsense all by myself.

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

If you put something in the first person singular and attribute that falsely to me then that is a LIE.

You may make any number of fatuous, facile, one dimensional views that you like but I don't want them attached to me.

I am quite capable of posting nonsense all by myself.

so do you like your distant relatives or not?

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

so do you like your distant relatives or not?

I would consider it foolish in the extreme to define my moral approval of people in terms of the closeness or otherwise of our family relationship.
I note I am genetically related to psychopaths, NAZI murderers, Isaac Newton, ISIL killers, Martin Luther King, Mandela, ameba and all living things.
I find this knowledge little practical use in determining whether or not I approval of people who wish to kill me because I don't think there is but one god and he rules alone.

do you like all your distance relative equally?

mayonnaise

CLAPTON wrote: »

I note I am genetically related to psychopaths, NAZI murderers, Isaac Newton, ISIL killers, Martin Luther King, Mandela, ameba and...

...and Jeremy Corbyn

cells

CLAPTON wrote: »

I would consider it foolish in the extreme to define my moral approval of people in terms of the closeness or otherwise of our family relationship.
I note I am genetically related to psychopaths, NAZI murderers, Isaac Newton, ISIL killers, Martin Luther King, Mandela, ameba and all living things.
I find this knowledge little practical use in determining whether or not I approval of people who wish to kill me because I don't think there is but one god and he rules alone.

do you like all your distance relative equally?

of course not, like i said more than 99.9% of people feel that way even though its maybe not so nice admitting it

why you have a problem saying it is the confusing part


EDIT: ahh I missed how you phrased it.
I like my close relatives a hell of a lot more than my distant relatives which is true for virtually everyone.

However the various groups of distant relatives eg my Chinese relatives vs my Arab relatives vs my South American relatives etc etc I dont really value one group more or less than the other

CLAPTON

cells wrote: »

of course not, like i said more than 99.9% of people feel that way even though its maybe not so nice admitting it

why you have a problem saying it is the confusing part

rubbish
no-one other (apparently) yourself has any difficulty in making moral judgements about good and evil people.
your one dimensional approach confuses only you.