Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

mumps

Figgerty wrote: »

Before the Equal Pay Act, women were usually in the lower paid jobs and that is probably why you saw so any women primary school teachers, the men had the better paid teaching jobs. Things have changed a lot since then but I'm sure there is still inequality in some professions.

Like you, I was born in December 1953 and accept the first changes under the 1995 Act. The additional increase of 18 months under the 2011 Act is unfair. Those already effected under the 1995 Act had their state pension age increased once more, without fair notice. That is the crux of my complaint.

I think you misunderstood, I had a female head teacher, she was a nun. My kids were at primary school in the 70s 80s 90s and naughties my grandchildren are at primary school now, and all had/have male head teachers. The radio in there schools were 6 female teachers to one male teacher and one male head, that doesn't seem right to me. It is also a strange coincidence that they were all at schools with one form per year and only one of those years they had a male teacher. One of my grandchildren went to a bigger school for a year but the ratio seemed similar but I'm not sure it was exactly the same.

I don't think you can always says its because of career breaks for children, most of the teachers I know go back after maternity leave. As I said I don't know if it is a coincidence that I see most primary teachers being female and most heads being male or if it is a real pattern. Don't know if there are statistics anywhere. All my kids had male heads at grammar school as well, and the two who are teachers are in schools with male heads but at least the balance of male/female teachers seems more equal.

colsten

People of this forum, I have you know that the unfairness in this country against 1950s women seems to have no end. Now they even say the access to Westminster Hall is on a first come first serve basis. Someone said this has always been the case but nobody has ever written to me to tell me. So unfair. I demand access to Westminster Hall as and when I decide I want it.

Figgerty

colsten wrote: »

People of this forum, I have you know that the unfairness in this country against 1950s women seems to have no end. Now they even say the access to Westminster Hall is on a first come first serve basis. Someone said this has always been the case but nobody has ever written to me to tell me. So unfair. I demand access to Westminster Hall as and when I decide I want it.

Perhaps they are ignorant of the rules pertaining to access. Some people are ignorant.

mumps

mgdavid wrote: »

just for balance - I was at state primary in the late fifties, the Head was female, Miss Field was her name, and jolly good she was, too. There were also two male teachers on the staff so it wasn't a case of selecting a woman head by default either.

Yes I also had a female head in the 50s, I did mention that in the post you quoted. It is my children and grandchildren who have always had a majority of female teachers at primary school but a male head.

mumps

jem16 wrote: »

As a female Primary teacher with 37 years experience, it is indeed true that most Primary teachers are female and years ago it certainly was the case that there was a male headteacher. This was simply because male teachers found it easier to be promoted in Primary than Secondary as many female teachers simply weren't interested in management - they wanted to actually teach children.

Nowadays it's more female headteachers.

Pay was exactly the same for male and female for all my teaching career.

If there are more female heads than male now it must just be coincidence then. Although my kids were at school in the 70s 80s and 90s, would it still have been more male heads then? It has always seemed strange. At the primary my older two went to there were 7 teaches and one head teacher, one of the teachers was the deputy head. Six teachers were female, the deputy head/year 6 teacher was male as was the head. There were some fabulous teachers at that school and at least one left to be a head or maybe deputy head at another school.

missbiggles1

Seabee42 wrote: »

So even if your a 40% tax payer you go from paying your own NI to receiving a net 60% from the government never mind the silly things like winter fuel allowance and free travel and cannot see the almighty costs?

You've lost me on that one.

missbiggles1

Figgerty wrote: »

I am not looking for sympathy and don't try spinning what I say in that way. If you don't believe me then don't bother reading or replying to my posts.

Apart from knowing that poorly educated women were in low paid jobs and working with many of them I can't prove it. Can you prove they were not? I have heard the history of many of the #Waspi women and many have the same educational background & job history as me.

As were poorly educated men.

Can you give some idea of what you consider a poor and a good salary because we could all be talking at cross purposes on that issue.

missbiggles1

Figgerty wrote: »

Perhaps they are ignorant of the rules pertaining to access. Some people are ignorant.

And some people who don't know something, go away and find out.

Rather sums up the WASPI campaign, doesn't it?

jem16

mumps wrote: »

If there are more female heads than male now it must just be coincidence then.

It's really quite simple. Many men do not go into Primary teaching as the age of the children put them off - they prefer mostly to work with older children.

Some men who go into Primary teaching genuinely wish to work with the actual children. Some see it as simply a way of climbing the ladder to the higher paid posts ( ultimately outwith schools in a lot of cases ) - something they would have far more competition with in Secondary schools.

In general female teachers in Primary were happy to stay as actual class teachers and weren't interested din the management route. To a certain extent that has changed with females more likely to want to climb the ladder too.

However it was never down to equal pay - that was equal for a long, long time in teaching - and nor was it down to opportunities.

jem16

Figgerty wrote: »

I have heard the history of many of the #Waspi women and many have the same educational background & job history as me.

I am sure that is quite the case for some but having read various profiles of the founders and many of its followers it is not the case for many. There are teachers, psychologists, doctors and many running their own business. Do they need this compensation? I very much doubt it.