Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

Nick_C

saver861 wrote: »

What are your suggestions for action to have the 2011 policy reversed or changed for those impacted?

I'm impacted by the 2011 changes. I'm going to have to wait an extra year for my SRP. But I agree with the changes.

I'm not happy that it is taking so long to bring about equality of treatment. The equal pension age was first announced in 1995. It won't be achieved until October 2020. 25 years to end this inequality is an inordinate length of time. Any further delay in giving an equal retirement age to men and women would be wholly unacceptable.

colsten

p00hsticks wrote: »

So please don't stereotype all women born in the 1950s all either as ignorant people on minimum wage who just spend our lives watching Corrie and talking about shoes, and/or selfless Florence Nightingales who were so busy raising perfect children and caring for the elderly that we never had time to read a newspaper....

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I do wish you'd stop stereotyping women born in the 50s as being uneducated and working in dead end, repetitive jobs. That's true for some (as it is now) but it certainly isn't true for all of us and, quite frankly, I think it's an insult.

As a female born in 1954 (which I have posted a few times already), I absolutely agree that this kind of stereotyping is far from reality, not constructive, and insulting to vast numbers of women born in the 1950s.

missbiggles1

Figgerty wrote: »

I'm sure there were some women born in 1953 who also went to university but I don't know of any, perhaps because I'm not from the right class. The women who started the #Waspi campaign were on low wages, not minimum wage because it did not exist back then. University educated women would have had a completely different experience,. Being unaware or uneducated does not make anyone 'ignorant' in my view. You may view it as ignorant though.

The main meaning of "ignorant" is "lacking in knowledge" which is exactly what you're saying is the case.

Figgerty

Daniel54 wrote: »

This is an open forum and no one needs to present their credentials before posting.In my case the user name gives you a clue,but that's bye the bye.i assume you are focussing on the 1995 act and will do the same.

For your last point,starting work at 15 or 16 and working into your 60s is a ( maybe unwelcome) price of gender equality.

The reason I asked people to declare age and general job type is because age is relevant to a discussion on state pension age and if you have worked for SS, DWP, Advise Centres or a Financial adviser then you would know a lot more about pensions than the average person. I think this is relevant to the discussion.

As to your Username, some people choose a name with a number because it was the year their football team last won the FA cup. I expect 66 features in many names and maybe 666 also.

colsten

Figgerty wrote: »

The women who started the #Waspi campaign were on low wages, not minimum wage because it did not exist back then.

Were they really?

missbiggles1

colsten wrote: »

Were they really?

That certainly isn't what I've read.

Figgerty

missbiggles1 wrote: »

The main meaning of "ignorant" ia "lacking in knowledge" which is exactly what you're saying is the case.

I would never use the word ignorant in that context but I'm sure that is because I'm lacking in knowledge. I admit that lack of knowledge, but I left school at 16, you were probably still in university at 21 or over.

Another definition of the word.
Ignorant

discourteous or rude.
"this ignorant, pin-brained receptionist"
synonyms:rude, impolite, ill-mannered, bad-mannered, unmannerly, ungracious, discourteous, insensitive, uncivil, ill-humoured, surly, sullen;

saver861

Nick_C wrote: »

I'm impacted by the 2011 changes. I'm going to have to wait an extra year for my SRP. But I agree with the changes.

Ok thats fair enough. If you don't think the 2011 policy should be changed then that's cool.

Many on here do think the 2011 changes are unfair thus my question to them as to what can people to attempt to persuade some concessions.

Nick_C wrote: »

I'm not happy that it is taking so long to bring about equality of treatment.

The equalisation is wholly correct and I don't think anybody has said its not. However, the issue is that many people were impacted by the 2011 changes in an unequal way to many others.

I am impacted and I had more than 10 years notice which is now the agreed minimum notice period. Others had just 5 or 6 years notice, thus therein lies a problem of achieving equalisation in an unequal manner!!!

Pollycat

Figgerty wrote: »

I would never use the word ignorant in that context but I'm sure that is because I'm lacking in knowledge. I admit that lack of knowledge, but I left school at 16, you were probably still in university at 21 or over.

Regardless of whether you personally would or would not use the word in that context, the fact is that the use of it was accurate.

colsten

Figgerty wrote: »

if you have worked for SS, DWP, Advise Centres or a Financial adviser then you would know a lot more about pensions than the average person.

This may be so, but you don't really need to have any specialist pension knowledge in order to figure out what your state pension age is, and roughly how much money you would get. You could, for instance, have walked into your local CAB and asked them. Or picked up the phone to call the CAB or the DWP (or the DSS before then). Or typed "UK pension" into a Google search. And we have covered the newspapers, radio and TV earlier.

Nobody will be able to prove that women did know, but equally, not one single woman can prove that she did not know. Ignorance of the law is no defense.