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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,537 Forumite
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    Figgerty wrote: »
    I'm sorry to say that I could not persuade them as they thought the same as you. Again, I must state that I only want to have 10 years notice of the 2011 Act changes, nothing else. No change to 1995 Act, no compensation, no transitional arrangements. I want to have the 10 years notice of the changes in the 2011 Act. Perhaps I should add it to my signature.
    So why do you appear to support #Waspi? They want all women born in the 50's to have a state pension age of 60.

    10 years notice of the 2011 change is reasonable and is supported by quite a lot of people here. The #Waspi demands are not.
  • Figgerty
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    mgdavid wrote: »
    "Frances Coppola is the author of the Coppola Comment finance and economics blog, which is a regular feature on the Financial Times’ Alphaville blog and has been cited in The Economist, the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times and The Guardian. Coppola is also Associate Editor at the online magazine Pieria and a frequent commentator on financial matters for the BBC."

    you too can use google...

    Why has she a donation button on her site if she features in so many prestige journals. She surely can't be strapped. Is her middle name Ford?

    I wouldn't have a clue about setting up a blog. I can just about post on here without messing up quotes.
    Some Burke bloke quote: all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to say nothing. :silenced:
  • zagfles
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    saver861 wrote: »
    Its fine not to agree with WASPI - not a problem.
    Thank you for your permission.
    What have you done to forward the chances of changes taking place to the 2011 policy if you agree there should be some changes to it?
    Err..campaign on that basis. Not on something completely different. Not disingenuously trying the widen the target for the petition to get more support from those with a vested interest.

    Instead appeal to peoples' sense of justice, use arguments like "if the govt get away with raising the SPA of this group with under 10 years notice, they could do it to you". Not call the campaign the ridiculous name of Waspi when it's campaigning for extending inequality, and when the 10 years notice issue applies to men as well.
  • Aegis
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    Figgerty wrote: »
    I'm sorry to say that I could not persuade them as they thought the same as you. Again,

    I must state that I only want to have 10 years notice of the 2011 Act changes, nothing else. No change to 1995 Act, no compensation, no transitional arrangements. I want to have the 10 years notice of the changes in the 2011 Act. Perhaps I should add it to my signature.
    Out of interest, why 10 years rather than, say, 5 or 20?
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  • p00hsticks
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    Figgerty wrote: »
    I must state that I only want to have 10 years notice of the 2011 Act changes, nothing else. No change to 1995 Act, no compensation, no transitional arrangements. I want to have the 10 years notice of the changes in the 2011 Act. Perhaps I should add it to my signature.

    That's (IMO) a reasonable view to take.
    However, it's not what WASPI is campaigning for or what their petition is asking for.

    I suggest that if you hold that opinion then you do what I have - write to your MP pointing out that the 2011 changes gave some women less than ten years notice of changes but also that you oppose WASPI's demands that the 1995 and 2011 changes are 'unwound' for all '50's women.

    you can e-mail your MP here;
    https://www.writetothem.com/
  • Figgerty
    Figgerty Posts: 473 Forumite
    zagfles wrote: »
    So why do you appear to support #Waspi? They want all women born in the 50's to have a state pension age of 60.

    10 years notice of the 2011 change is reasonable and is supported by quite a lot of people here. The #Waspi demands are not.

    The people on here are not campaigning, #Waspi are. The people on here have done nothing about this despite most being fully aware of all the changes and the unfairness of the 2011 Act.

    If you point me in the direction of another group/campaign on a fair and reasonable notice of the 2011 Act changes I will be happy to support them. Nobody apart from #Waspi is doing anything about this.
    Some Burke bloke quote: all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to say nothing. :silenced:
  • zagfles
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    Aegis wrote: »
    Out of interest, why 10 years rather than, say, 5 or 20?
    The govt themselves have stated an aim to provide 10 years notice of future SPA changes, so that's a good starting point...
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,537 Forumite
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    Figgerty wrote: »
    The people on here are not campaigning, #Waspi are. The people on here have done nothing about this despite most being fully aware of all the changes and the unfairness of the 2011 Act.
    You haven't got a clue what people on here have or haven't done.
    If you point me in the direction of another group/campaign on a fair and reasonable notice of the 2011 Act changes I will be happy to support them. Nobody apart from #Waspi is doing anything about this.
    #Waspi are campaigning for a different result to one you want. That's why they're not getting support from many people here.
  • colsten
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    zagfles wrote: »
    t.

    Instead appeal to peoples' sense of justice, use arguments like "if the govt get away with raising the SPA of this group with under 10 years notice, they could do it to you". Not call the campaign the ridiculous name of Waspi when it's campaigning for extending inequality, and when the 10 years notice issue applies to men as well.


    I have even seen one tweet from the official WASPI twitter account stating they are WASPI not MASPI,

    They have a very long way to go before they can convince the greater public that anything in the WASPI campaign is about equality.
  • Aegis
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    zagfles wrote: »
    The govt themselves have stated an aim to provide 10 years notice of future SPA changes, so that's a good starting point...
    Fair enough if that's the rationale, I was just curious to see what relevance that particular figure had as a gauge for determining "fair warning".
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