Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

Figgerty

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Originally Posted by Figgerty

Well the got 132,000 signatures for their petition. Lots of media exposure. Instigated debates in the House of Commons.

Not a Figgerty comment.

colsten wrote: »

Whilst I appreciate 132,000 may look like a big number, it's not really difficult to lull 100K people into the belief they'd stand to get £40K if only they signed a petition and gave their MP a bit of an ear ache. 132,000 is still a lot less than the number of tickets the National Lottery sells each week.

Don't pin your hope on the 132K. It's not really a big number. The "Ban The Trump from the UK" had over 550,00 signatures, and Trump won't be banned from entering the UK, specifically not after a debate in Parliament has been had on the matter. The "Stop all immigration and close the UK borders until ISIS is defeated" has over 450,000 signatures and our borders won't be closed any time soon, and probably never.

There are over 60 million adults in the UK. Even if only half of them voted (turnout is generally higher), 132,000 is less than 0.5% of the electorate.

So getting £132k to sign the petition is nothing at all. If you ever start a petition then you will find out just how difficult it is to get people interested, especially if it only effects a small percentage of the population. We care about Chunky, Malala Yousafzai and Donald trump but our older citizens are of no interest to most people.

missbiggles1

Figgerty wrote: »

The masters I was referring to were all those who know and knew about all the SPA changes as soon as the ink dried on the Act. And the ones that derided my knowledge of SPA & New State Pension amount and the ones who simply said "I don't believe you". I received similar treatment when I posted on here on the fairness of the SPA changes last year, but nothing like now where so much derision is aimed at the #Waspi women and me. I have posted on other subjects and don't recall the same tone.

Perhaps those complaining about Twitter abuse should look at some of their posts on this site. On Twitter you have just 140 characters & the power to mute or block any abuser - use it. I only view the #Waspi related tweets when I actively search for them.

But you're still ignoring the fact that the changes were announced in the 1993 budget, with all the medai coverage that involved. By referring only to the Act, you make the information sound academic and inaccessible to the majority of the public, which it certainly wasn't.

zagfles

Figgerty wrote: »

The school holiday situation effected a lot more people than the change in state pension age that the #Waspi campaign is about. I mentioned in an earlier post that I spoke to a group of under 50's and they were not interested in the campaign.

Says it all really. But come on, surely they can be persuaded at the injustice of it all.

"You're getting your pension at 67, help us campaign to get ours at 60 paid for by your taxes". And they said "no, not interested?" How heartless of them.

Whereas if "#Waspi" had a reasonable approach, like arguing about the notice period of the 2011 change, they might have got far wider support.

MoneyWorry

So getting £132k to sign the petition is nothing at all. If you ever start a petition then you will find out just how difficult it is to get people interested, especially if it only effects a small percentage of the population. We care about Chunky, Malala Yousafzai and Donald trump but our older citizens are of no interest to most people.[/QUOTE]
The thing that unites Chunky, Malala and Donald petitions is that they do not involve large amounts of taxpayers money. And as we keep saying the group does not consist wholly of old people in need.

Figgerty

mgdavid wrote: »

apart from Only Connect and a bit of sport I haven't watched TV for over 10 years.
Thinking way back the only series that made a lasting impression were The Ascent of Man, The World at War, all of David Attenborough's nature programs, Tomorrow's World, Monty Python, Rising Damp, Fawlty Towers, TOGWT.
Oh, The Avengers and The New Avengers.

Afterthought - Pan's People on TOTP!

I watched Attenborough, Rising Damp, Faulty Towers, TOTP, Kenny Everett, both Avengers, Bergerac (Jersey Police series) Minder, The Sweeney, Yes Minister/PM. The Tube C4 music), Dads Army, Maigret (French Police). Sherlock Holmes.

I didn't like Monty Python as I thought it silly. I don't know how long BBCQT has been running but I don't remember seeing it until quite recently.

I was a fan of Tomorrows World & loved where they forecast that computers would make our lives so much better & reduce our workload so much that we would be working much shorter days/weeks. The office would also be paperless. They forgot that our computers/printers were able to churn out way more paper than our WP/Typists/Quill combined.

TOGWT?

TWTWTW I don't remember this but have seen clips over the years. Like when David ? "hello, good evening & welcome" died. Sorry, his surname escapees me.

It's nice to bring a bit of levity to the situation. Thanks.

saver861

zagfles wrote: »

132,000 is less than 0.2% of the UK population. The petition to cap package holiday prices in the school holidays got more signatures, and more media coverage, and a debate in parliament. Nothing came of it, because it wasn't taken seriously.

The first debate wasn't widely reported at all. There was nothing on the BBC news about it. Not even on the politics page on the BBC website on the day, except buried deep in a blog about the day's events. No item in itself. I was surprised how little coverage it got.

Hardly noticeable ..... ah right ..... sooooo....... why are so many on here spending so much time talking about something that is a non event????

Figgerty

zagfles wrote: »

Says it all really. But come on, surely they can be persuaded at the injustice of it all.

"You're getting your pension at 67, help us campaign to get ours at 60 paid for by your taxes". And they said "no, not interested?" How heartless of them.

Whereas if "#Waspi" had a reasonable approach, like arguing about the notice period of the 2011 change, they might have got far wider support.

I'm sorry to say that I could not persuade them as they thought the same as you. Again,

I must state that I only want to have 10 years notice of the 2011 Act changes, nothing else. No change to 1995 Act, no compensation, no transitional arrangements. I want to have the 10 years notice of the changes in the 2011 Act. Perhaps I should add it to my signature.

Figgerty

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The thing that unites Chunky, Malala and Donald petitions is that they do not involve large amounts of taxpayers money. And as we keep saying the group does not consist wholly of old people in need.

So, it's nothing to do with fairness or unfairness. You only sign petitions if there is no cost to you, Did you ever sign petitions on cancer drugs availability for breast cancer or other cancers?

saver861

zagfles wrote: »

Whereas if "#Waspi" had a reasonable approach, like arguing about the notice period of the 2011 change, they might have got far wider support.

Its fine not to agree with WASPI - not a problem.

What have you done to forward the chances of changes taking place to the 2011 policy if you agree there should be some changes to it?

colsten

Figgerty wrote: »

Again, I must state that I only want to have 10 years notice of the 2011 Act changes, nothing else. No change to 1995 Act, no compensation, no transitional arrangements. I want to have the 10 years notice of the changes in the 2011 Act. Perhaps I should add it to my signature.

That's a fair-ish requirement to have but unfortunately it's nothing remotely like what the WASPIs are asking for.