How am I supposed to find a job when everyone asks for experience?

Flyonthewall

sangie595 wrote: »

There are suitable places to stay if they are provided. Every council has a legal obligation (which most ignore) to provide proper sites. If you live in a small village then the Council with the statutory duty must be bigger than your village - Councils simply aren't that small.

And I can't possibly think that people who live in houses are never known to steal from houses. Stealing is probably only something some travellers do.

Where travellers go is often dictated by centuries old migration patterns based on available work or business. Most of these are not new traditions. I used to live in a small village like you, and mostly everyone hated the two months the travellers came to town. Complained like mad, wanted them moved on, wouldn't agree to a site locally - but would have been majorly !!!!ed off if the harvest wasn't in! Who do you think did the harvesting? The local commuters from the village to their swanky offices in the city?

There is good and bad in any community, but you have to get to know people first before you can decide. A couple of years ago we had a refuse workers strike around here. You really should have seen just how filthy people living in houses could get. And more than a few people in houses don't need the excuse of a strike.

Yes, the council covers more than the small area in which I live but what I meant is in the small area in which I live there is nowhere suitable to set up a place. It's all used and needed, hence why it's an issue when they break in and start living there!

They seem to like coming here so even if there were a site elsewhere I'm not convinced they'd go to it as they want to stay here and there's no room here.

I'm not saying there's no crime at any other times, but crime goes up when they arrive and they've been seen doing it.

They don't want to know anyone and it's quite clear from their actions they're not people you want to know either.

User_Name1

Sncjw wrote: »

NHS jobs as well. I didn't have experience in admin but I got an admin job.

I wrote in the additional info of my transferable skills that would work in that work place.

I also said although I don't have experience I am willing to undertake training. By training me you will have someone trained to your business needs and requirements

Went for a couple of NHS job interview and got rejected from them all

User_Name1

daytona0 wrote: »

How do you not get a rubbish call center job due to other people being "too loud"?!

That's not going to be the case; I just think that you probably aren't selling yourself enough. It is ok to be a very reserved person but if you can speak clearly, can follow the procedures and appear somewhat likeable (clean, well dressed, positive body language, responding to what people say to you, listening etc) then they'll probably take you! It is as simple as that, because many of them places just hire people in bulk full in the knowledge that the turnover is extremely high and a new batch will be coming in soon.

I've worked in a call center with some absolutely strange oddballs. It is a wonder how they got into the building in the first place! They usually last for about 1-3 months before being sacked (even though they can be sacked earlier), unless they do something heavy like swearing at a customer (like the last guy!).

In terms of the other jobs:

FLT licence? GO AND GET IT

Driving licence? TRY AND GET IT, or alternatively why not consider a CBT motorbike licence (~£100 for 2 years) along with a 75cc (£200-£500 used)/125cc (£400-£1000 used) moped and also a third party insurance policy (£100-£200 a year)? You won't get on the road for cheaper than that, unless you use a bicycle. It also makes you eligible for small time delivery driver jobs which may get you like £20-£30 a night + tips. A bit of a grind, but one night can cover your moped expenses (£5 for petrol a week. Repairs will cost £15 a week but will probably need to be saved up in the long term) leaving you with a means to get from A to B.

Admin jobs in schools? A bit cliquey so don't worry TOO much about not getting these.

SIMS training? GO AND TRAIN FOR IT. Youtube probably have videos, plus SIMS is pretty easy to use once you get the hang of it. Maybe also consider volunteering in a school, they may even pay for your DBS check (or whatever it is called).

Cleaning jobs? No experience of these, but I suspect that you may be able to find one or two jobs requiring no experience. Or you can volunteer? Or just look at other lines of work.

There are 1000s of jobs you can do at entry level, you just haven't looked hard enough/haven't committed yourself enough to the opportunities presented.


Finally, if you have no income whilst on the dole then what do you do in the time which you would otherwise fill with a full time job? I cannot fathom how you can justify a phrase such as "I can't afford to volunteer atm, I need a full time job first" when the alternative [to the full time job you crave] is to sit around and not earn a penny.

FLT licence cost money and so do driving lessons.
Most jobs in my area get like over 60 applications and of course they'll take on the most experienced person.

User_Name1

Sharon87 wrote: »

What about retail jobs? You haven't mentioned these? They don't need training and whilst experience would be preferable it's not necessary.

I am not a peoples person and that shows in interviews. So retail now is not something that I am quite suited to. Retail is for loud outgoing types of people

User_Name1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

I agree, but they should pay your travel costs (up to a certain amount at least) for workfare.



Apprenticeships are usually full time anyway. They have to be at least 30 hours. You won't get far ordering an employer around though, especially as an apprentice! Competition is high for them, they will be quite happy to kick you out the door and get some grateful for the opportunity to work on their terms!

Some employers pay above the apprenticeship wage anyway.



Would it not be far cheaper just to buy an old motorhome? Quicker too.

Not all caravan sites are that cheap and you'll have vehicle costs (tax, mot, insurance, fuel, wear and tear). Certainly requires research otherwise you could nd up paying out stupidly large amounts and still having no job.

Plus, you still need to sign on and you couldn't go too far in case you need to go for an interview. Although if they send a letter you need to be able to receive it and they can't send it to a van.

In theory it has some good points - hit the road and see what you find. In reality I'd suggest you don't do that as it could cause many issues.



O maybe it's down to experience. We've had Gypsies where I live. They've broken into numerous fields including a school, left rubbish everywhere (and far worse that I don't want to think about and hope not to see again!) and have been trouble. They've done nothing of any benefit, just got in the way and been a massive pain.

No not all Gypsies are scum, but some are.

If OP has a service to offer then fair enough they have the option of self employment, but not sure having anything to do with travellers will help.

I am too old for an apprenticeship anyway and at 25 companies will not receive any funding for taking me on.
Where I live every unskilled job is being converted into an apprenticeship.
For example, I've seen an ad for apprentice chips fryer what chance do I have left?

w00519772

User_Name1 wrote: »

I can't afford to volunteer atm, I need a full time job first

Volunteering could be a stepping stone to employment. At least you are showing willing to learn and gain experience by volunteering. It could help you to stand out from the crowd.

User_Name1

w00519772 wrote: »

Volunteering could be a stepping stone to employment. At least you are showing willing to learn and gain experience by volunteering. It could help you to stand out from the crowd.

Volunteering isn't going to help me. I need a paid job. I am not working for free when I am in need of a job

w00519772

User_Name1 wrote: »

Volunteering isn't going to help me. I need a paid job. I am not working for free when I am in need of a job

You will have to shine in some other way then. What skills and experience do you have? Do you have any qualifications?

It is a chicken and egg situation. You need experience to gain employment and you need employment to gain experience. Volunteering can be a way to break this cycle.

Flyonthewall

User_Name1 wrote: »

I am not a peoples person and that shows in interviews. So retail now is not something that I am quite suited to. Retail is for loud outgoing types of people

Then you need to change that because most employers want someone they think will get on with others. You don't have to be really outgoing but you have to show willingness to work with others and at least appear happy about it.

User_Name1 wrote: »

I am too old for an apprenticeship anyway and at 25 companies will not receive any funding for taking me on.
Where I live every unskilled job is being converted into an apprenticeship.
For example, I've seen an ad for apprentice chips fryer what chance do I have left?

No you're not. Apprenticeships do often state 18-24 but you can do them when you're older. The reason 18-24 is usually stated is due to funding, but that doesn't mean it's not an option if you're older.

User_Name1 wrote: »

Volunteering isn't going to help me. I need a paid job. I am not working for free when I am in need of a job

You're completely missing the point of volunteering!

You do it to prove you are reliable, trustworthy, willing to work, to get a reference, to get work experience, to add to your CV.

You volunteer to get paid work because you don't have what employers are looking for otherwise.

Flyonthewall

User_Name1 wrote: »

FLT licence cost money and so do driving lessons.
Most jobs in my area get like over 60 applications and of course they'll take on the most experienced person.

Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.

Course, that's not easy if you have no money in the first place, I do get that, but if possible and if you think it'll get you a job it might be an idea to look into getting the FLT licence.

User_Name1 wrote: »

Went for a couple of NHS job interview and got rejected from them all

Then you keep trying.