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  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
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    Wonder how the OP got on ....are the parents still thinking that the police are the bad lads in this scenario?
  • Kaye1
    Kaye1 Posts: 538 Forumite
    I've re-read this several times- is the OP insinuating they have used the cane or are they just saying it was used by others in the past and it was fine?


    Glad social services are involved either way.
  • Exactly that, a police legal advisor, usually a retired police officer that they attempt to palm off on people when they ask for a solicitor, usually about as useful as the proverbial ashtray on a motorbike, accredited as in rubber stamped by the police, they are not a solicitor and they are not qualified in law.

    You have no automatic right to a free solicitor until you are placed under caution by the police.
    As for wasting time, it is their time and their problem, but it will get you a legally aided solicitor or you can refuse the interview and the police know exactly how long the magistrates patience will last if they refuse to provide or find a real solicitor.
    About 30 seconds is the record I think.


    Nonsense. The legal advisor that attends the police station may be a qualified solicitor. If not, they will have been properly trained and accredited by the Law Society to give legal advice and protection in criminal matters. Whether or not they were once police officers, and many are not, is immaterial. A solicitor or barrister, to qualify, has to learn many different types of law, such as commercial law, which is not relevant to advising a client in a criminal case.
    Except for your postings the OP have received some good advice here. I hope he chooses wisely.
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  • bouicca21
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    Since OP was clearly stunned to discover that most of us thought she was abusing her children, I doubt she'll come back and update us. Pity because I'd like to know that she was getting some support towards building a repertoire of non abusive disciplinary techniques. I'm sure if we knew how old the children were, and what sort of offences called for punishment, we'd have some useful suggestions.
  • ab1982
    ab1982 Posts: 431 Forumite
    Firstly I think it’s out of order hitting your kids, I am glad that it is illegal and fingers crossed the outcome of this will be that your kids don’t have to suffer any further physical abuse.

    Secondly, I think this is probably a wind up post.

    Thirdly, I agree with Mark re dealing with the Police. They have spent a lot of time and effort to get you in the door to interview you under caution and they will want a conviction out of it. They don’t care on the morals of child discipline and you could be Mother Theresa in other aspects of your life, they will be looking for a law that you have broken that can be proved before pressing charges. It’s a results business, nothing personal about it.

    Good luck to them in this instance. Hopefully your posts on here will provide them with some evidence.
  • Person_one
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    ab1982 wrote: »
    Firstly I think it’s out of order hitting your kids, I am glad that it is illegal and fingers crossed the outcome of this will be that your kids don’t have to suffer any further physical abuse.

    Unfortunately, its not yet illegal for parents to hit their children.

    If anybody in this thread is interested in supporting the campaign to change the law please have a look here:

    http://www.childrenareunbeatable.org.uk
  • ali-t
    ali-t Posts: 3,815 Forumite
    thorsoak wrote: »
    If you are in Scotland or NI, then it is actually illegal to physically chastise your child

    This is untrue. In scotland you can smack children, just not on the head and you are not allowed to smack with an implement. The scottish gov published a brochure for parents mqny years ago which can be found if you search for the Scottish government guide to smacking. Legislation hasnt changed since the booklet was published in 2003.
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  • LadyDee
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    Garethgrew wrote: »

    Shall we give a no comment interview just to be on the safe side? I don't trust the police, they don't care about the truth they just want you to say something they can use against you. They just care about their careers and doing wel on paper, make their promotion come sooner.

    Not commenting at all on the reason behind your post but approaching a police interview with that attitude will not help you.
  • ab1982
    ab1982 Posts: 431 Forumite
    What do you base that on ladydee? My experience admittedly not extensive seems to be that the police ask questions under caution for you to incriminate yourself.
  • LadyDee
    LadyDee Posts: 4,293 Forumite
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    ab1982 wrote: »
    What do you base that on ladydee? My experience admittedly not extensive seems to be that the police ask questions under caution for you to incriminate yourself.

    Just general life experience. Approach people in the way you would wish to be approached yourself, be it the police or anybody else. You can't go far wrong being pleasant and co-operative.
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