Legal advise dealing with police
Garethgrew
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Not sure where to post this, but to cut a long story short....
We have to go to the police st again tomorrow because the school told them that we smack our kids as part of discipline.........
We have had social services around several times now.
As far as I can see the law is its ok to smack with a hand on appropriate occasions, but the cane is not allowed anymore?
My parent generation used the cane, which didn't do them any harm.
Anyway the police say we should bring a solicitor I haven't got a clue where to look for one, can anybody give us a suggestion? Can we get legal aid?
It's all a wate of time, it will not take long to see we are not abusing or beating our kids.
Still worried all the same, I mean what's the worst that could happen? They won't really take our kids away will they?
Shall we give a no comment interview just to be on the safe side? I don't trust the police, they don't care about the truth they just want you to say something they can use against you. They just care about their careers and doing wel on paper, make their promotion come sooner.
We have to go to the police st again tomorrow because the school told them that we smack our kids as part of discipline.........
We have had social services around several times now.
As far as I can see the law is its ok to smack with a hand on appropriate occasions, but the cane is not allowed anymore?
My parent generation used the cane, which didn't do them any harm.
Anyway the police say we should bring a solicitor I haven't got a clue where to look for one, can anybody give us a suggestion? Can we get legal aid?
It's all a wate of time, it will not take long to see we are not abusing or beating our kids.
Still worried all the same, I mean what's the worst that could happen? They won't really take our kids away will they?
Shall we give a no comment interview just to be on the safe side? I don't trust the police, they don't care about the truth they just want you to say something they can use against you. They just care about their careers and doing wel on paper, make their promotion come sooner.
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Causing physical hurt is abuse.
Your parents showed you it was okay, so you do it now.
If you aren't stopped, then you are showing your children it is okay and they will do it to their children.
Ad infinitum.
and we will never, ever return.
The Crown Prosecution Service Charging Standard, means that hitting a child hard enough to leave visible bruising, grazes, scratches, minor swellings or cuts, now constitutes the criminal offence of actual bodily harm. This carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison.
Anybody else using physical force to punish or discipline a child may be accused of physical abuse and is committing a criminal offence.
This includes:
slapping
smacking
tapping
punching
hitting with any object (including shoes, rulers and cooking utensils)
twisting ears
pinching
burning
scalding
causing pain and discomfort by making children sit or stand in uncomfortable positions for long periods, and many other behaviours.
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So, NO you can't 'smack' your child/children and 'get away with it'.
There's no smoke without fire.
This is why social services are involved, and why the police are going to caution you.
FYI They AREN'T "looking for their next promotion" or "to do well on paper". There's a kilo of paperwork that they have to go through before calling you in for the interview.
HWTHMBO - He Who Thinks He Must Be Obeyed
DS#1 - my twenty-year-old son
DS#2 - my teenaged son
Barkin Things - my two rescued/retired greyhounds
HWTHMBO - He Who Thinks He Must Be Obeyed
DS#1 - my twenty-year-old son
DS#2 - my teenaged son
Barkin Things - my two rescued/retired greyhounds
How many children do you have, what are their ages, and why have you not listened to Social Services when they have tried to advise you? Or do you know best, as your parents did?
Not such a waste of time now?
How old are you? Do you not read papers/watch tv? You use the internet, so you must realise that physical punishment is not acceptable - its not even acceptable for pets, let alone children!
The police will caution you at the start of the interview, at / from this point you now have access to free solicitor representation and legal advice and not before.
As soon as they read the caution you only words must be.
I demand (do not not request) that a solicitor be provided.
When they arrive demand the solicitor proves they are actually a solicitor and not a police legal advisor, you can refuse if they are a police advisor and demand a law society solicitor.
Ask the solicitor to suspend the interview as you require legal advice.
The solicitor now has access to the investigation notes and outline brief and can see where they are going and on what evidence and will advise you what to say at any future interview.
If the police ignore the demand for a solicitor, answer all questions .
"I am exercising my right to silence as I have been refused access to a solicitor"
They will soon get fed up.
You need legal advise from a solicitor, if you call one you have to pay, if you do as I said above one will be provided free.
I can not advise you any further than this unfortunately.
You've had social services round several times and already had the police involved and still haven't worked out that what you think is an reasonable method of chastisement for your children isn't acceptable in this country?