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Difference between 10/100mbps switch and 10/100/1000

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  • Nilrem
    Nilrem Posts: 2,565 Forumite
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    Cycrow wrote: »
    What difference does that make ?

    if you only ever buy the slow one, then you have nothing to compare it to. So you wont know how much difference the faster one will make because you havn't used it.

    There is a big difference between 10/100 and 10/100/1000. And its very noticeable if you have used both.

    The only time you wont notice the difference is if you only ever use it to connect to internet, then you are limited by the internets speed. Unless of course you are on some faster connection like Virgin

    Aye, we never really considered gigabit for the switches in our house until we'd updated the router which gave gigabit speeds between 2 or the main PC's.
    After that file transfers at 11-12MB/s between the other machines seemed very slow.
    With gigabit you're tending to run at near the speed of the file transfers from one internal hard drive to another (or faster even, given mechanical HDD speeds only really reached 100MB/s+ about 5 years ago*).

    These days given the increasing speed of BB, and the increasing number of computers/devices in a house I wouldn't recommend 100mb networking gear given the gigabit stuff is only a few pounds more and far more futureproof.
    Especially given that BT lines are now reaching around 80mb, whic means that potentially well within the working life of the 100mbit switches they may be slower than the incoming internet (and if you're on VM at all a 100mbit switch or router is a waste of money).


    *I've got a few older drives that actually cannot keep up with the transfer rates you can get over gigabit.
  • securityguy
    securityguy Posts: 2,464 Forumite
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    "The only time you wont notice the difference is if you only ever use it to connect to internet"

    That's an exaggeration. If you don't move large files around, you won't notice the difference.
  • windup
    windup Posts: 339 Forumite
    edited 7 December 2015 at 5:24PM
    if they don't need gigabit, then the cheaper one is better value for money, and it doesn't matter a jot what the case is made of .... not many metal cased home routers in existence

    The requirement was internet gaming and youview, not nas or file transfers between machines, both of which are intermittent activities generally which still work on 10/100 anyway.

    Very few people need to use gigabit switches in their homes in 2015.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 7 December 2015 at 5:31PM
    windup wrote: »
    if they don't need gigabit, then the cheaper one is better value for money, and it doesn't matter a jot what the case is made of

    The requirement was internet gaming and youview, not nas or file transfers between machines, both of which are intermittent activities generally which still work on 10/100 anyway.

    Very few people need to use gigabit switches in their homes in 2015.

    Entirely disagree, for the little extra it costs to buy a Gigabit switch it will serve you considerably longer and give much greater return per pound spent. See Parkinson's Law

    The demand upon a resource tends to expand to match the supply of the resource.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • windup
    windup Posts: 339 Forumite
    edited 7 December 2015 at 5:46PM
    that's like buying a people carrier because you think you might start a family in 5 years time, when a fiesta would fit the current purpose nicely. For the reasons mentioned in post 12, buying top of the range in tech is rarely a sensible use of money. The price is close, so it's not a big deal either way.

    The internet speed is 40Mb, a youview box might use 3 of that max and zero most of the time. The rest will be shared, internet transmissions are sporadic not constant, even if the gamers are both at it, a better switch is unlikely to make any difference. They haven't even mentioned whether the equipment they use supports gigabit.

    The switch idea came about due to some vague problems with powerline adapters, the op's time might be better spent looking at that before cluttering the house up with wires and flashing electrical equipment.
  • Johnmcl7
    Johnmcl7 Posts: 2,838 Forumite
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    Gigabit Ethernet is nowhere near top of the range and it's extremely rare to see an onboard network card that doesn't support gigabit Ethernet. I find gigabit Ethernet useful for gaming as it makes transferring increasingly huge games between machines far faster, for the small increase in price I think it's worth it.
  • windup wrote: »
    that's like buying a people carrier because you think you might start a family in 5 years time, when a fiesta would fit the current purpose nicely. For the reasons mentioned in post 12, buying top of the range in tech is rarely a sensible use of money. The price is close, so it's not a big deal either way.

    The internet speed is 40Mb, a youview box might use 3 of that max and zero most of the time. The rest will be shared, internet transmissions are sporadic not constant, even if the gamers are both at it, a better switch is unlikely to make any difference. They haven't even mentioned whether the equipment they use supports gigabit.

    The switch idea came about due to some vague problems with powerline adapters, the op's time might be better spent looking at that before cluttering the house up with wires and flashing electrical equipment.
    Turn the box so the lights face the wall, 3 pieces kit on powerline + printer nas router etc , never heard of collisions?
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  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    edited 7 December 2015 at 6:00PM
    windup wrote: »
    that's like buying a people..............

    Gigabit is hardly top of the range, a 5 port giga switch is only £13. It's also like like buying a HDD which is 60% the price yet only one tenth of the capacity.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • windup
    windup Posts: 339 Forumite
    edited 7 December 2015 at 6:02PM
    ever heard of diagnosis? ever heard of wireless?

    hands up, of the people pushing the expensive option, how many of you are using a gigabit switch at home as well as a router?
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    windup wrote: »
    ever heard of diagnosis? ever heard of wireless?

    hands up, of the people pushing the expensive option, how many of you are using a gigabit switch at home as well as a router?

    My router is a Gigabit switch ;)
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
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