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Difference between 10/100mbps switch and 10/100/1000

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  • Nilrem
    Nilrem Posts: 2,565 Forumite
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    edited 8 December 2015 at 3:09PM
    Fightsback wrote: »
    So you admit these technical points that DCM is forwarding as to logical reasons why the OP should select a particular course of action are beyond your comprehension and knowledge, i.e. you are out of your depth.



    I noted that you recommended wireless to the OP which is rather comedic given that they are running two gaming rigs, to anyone even with the slightest modicum of knowledge that wireless introduces a delay, ping is king in gaming; not to mention wireless throughput ever performs as advertised. The same can also be said for homeplug that it does not deliver as advertised either.

    Gigabit ethernet is the best technical solution, anything else is a fudge compromise done by a bodger. A £13 gigabit switch and some wire is not expensive.

    Aye, given how much I've spent on both wireless and homeplugs (I've got 2 sets sitting in my spares box* and one that is only used for connection to an outbuilding), the cost of wired is nothing, and the reliability a god send.

    Wireless should IMO (and at least until they get something far better than is available at the moment) only be used as a very last resort for anything other than devices that you're moving around.
    Even Laptops should really if they're used in a regular place such as a desk have a wired connection if possible.
    My house is average size, standard 70's construction and I need two wireless access points (connected by cat5e) to get full coverage.
    It doesn't matter if I'm using 2.4 or 5ghz, there are dead spots and areas where the speed/quality just drops otherwise (and I'm being careful to use channels not in use by neighbours).

    Homeplug is slightly better than wireless, but I've found it simply doesn't work at anything like a decent speed or reliably in houses on my street for some reason. I thought it was my household wiring, but I tried them in a couple of neighbours houses when they were looking into networking and it didn't work**.
    That was with three brands and three different generations of the adaptors, AV200 simply wouldn't hold a connection, AV500 barely managed 12-40mb/s.


    *I rarely throw out anything that could be handy in regards to computer gear, until it's at leat 5-10 years old as I tend to get called on to help neighbours/family (so things like old networking gear is loaned out if a friend has problems, I used to include an old router in my tool kit as it helped diagnose networking issues).

    **I think the rings are too long for it, as these houses were built with a single mains ring rather than the modern one per floor.
  • windup
    windup Posts: 339 Forumite
    edited 8 December 2015 at 3:49PM
    I joined this thread when I saw this
    Fightsback wrote: »
    Well I suppose you could be smarter than a slug, a tortoise perhaps ?

    If you think that is a good way to speak to people who's opinion you disagree with, you should get out more.

    Anyone who has a different opinion is thick and knows nothing about networking. Do you really think I'm impressed if someone mentions collisions, rfc's, 10base-t, gaming rigs?

    If you were as smart as you think, you'd start by asking what the problem was instead of jumping head first into a solution, and nitpicking at anyone who offers a different approach
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    windup wrote: »
    I joined this thread when I saw this....

    Well now you can leave unless you have anything further of technical merit to contribute, don't forget to shut the door on your way out.
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • fred246
    fred246 Posts: 3,620 Forumite
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    Good job no-one asked if now was a good time to buy a 4K TV.
  • Fightsback
    Fightsback Posts: 2,504 Forumite
    fred246 wrote: »
    Good job no-one asked if now was a good time to buy a 4K TV.

    Indeed, 4K pictures have a higher bandwidth requirement which is much better handled by gigabit.

    Do I detect a pair of socks ?
    Science isn't exact, it's only confidence within limits.
  • Nilrem
    Nilrem Posts: 2,565 Forumite
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    Fightsback wrote: »
    Indeed, 4K pictures have a higher bandwidth requirement which is much better handled by gigabit.

    :D

    Very true :) (at the moment I wouldn't go for 4k unless it was doubling as a monitor).
  • Inner_Zone
    Inner_Zone Posts: 2,856 Forumite
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    OP if you have not yet purchased I recommend this one currently on offer under £14:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AWM7PKO/?!!!!!ho01f-21
  • Inner_Zone wrote: »
    OP if you have not yet purchased I recommend this one currently on offer under £14:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AWM7PKO/?!!!!!ho01f-21



    Thank you! that seems perfect.

    I haven't bought one yet as I'm waiting for my Amazon codes to come back from my Topcashback account. They seem to be taking ages.

    I had that exact same one in my basket. I hadn't realised that it had come down in price.

    I was also looking at this one too
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01132G822?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

    Maybe I just need to get on and buy it before the price goes up again.

    I have really enjoyed reading this thread. I hadn't realised that home networking could provoke such a debate.

    I have gone with the unmanaged switch because...
    The Ethernet leads are already in place
    and
    The powerline adapters were very unreliable and kept dropping speed.

    I have powerline adapters for downstairs but they simply don't do a good enough job at taking the internet upstairs... I have no idea why.

    Thank you so much for your advice, time and suggestions


    sparkie
  • Nilrem
    Nilrem Posts: 2,565 Forumite
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    The Netgear one is the same model I have as my main switch and has been great for 18 months.
  • I bought the netgar switch and it worked brilliantly for about 3 weeks
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AWM7PKO/?!!!!!ho01f-21


    It's now reducing the speed from 35mbps to about 5mbps... is this to be expected?
    Some of the 8 sockets work better than others ... might I have a faulty one?


    sparkie
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