NHS - Time to privatise?

[Deleted User]

Well, 2nd visit in hospital and they seem to be sorting problems they caused first time. Which is good but should have happened first time around.

I'm all for putting in an official complaint. My outlook is if no-one complains then nothing ever changes. If you've done things right and can justify your actions then you've got nothing to worry about.

BUT, and I'm sure its a generation thing, but old man doesnt want to cause a fuss or get anyone in trouble. Tried to explain to him that he should complain if only to protect the next person, and that no-one is going to get into trouble on my say so but only if they are found to be negligent.

His argument - but all the nurses are so nice here I don;t want to think of them being told off because they've been so nice to me. He forgets quickly what happened to him.

Like I said before, NHS staff know a lot of people will just not complain, especially the older generation. Be nice to their face, but screw up behind the scenes and most people won't bother. Its sickening the lack of accountability....

GlasweJen

Or your dad knows that he wanted out and gave the nurses the number to call as he didn't want put to another ward and now that there's been issues doesn't want you to kick off in case someone produces a bit of paper with your dads signature to show that he discharged himself against medical advice?

Also the complication would probably have happened regardless of where your dad was.

Your description of him on the previous thread; knows what he wants, likes a fuss made over him, demands people taxi him about, expects you to drop everything and run to him on a whim etc don't paint the picture of a frail old man, more like someone who knows exactly how to manipulate w situation to make his son come running.

Pollycat

GlasweJen wrote: »

Or your dad knows that he wanted out and gave the nurses the number to call as he didn't want put to another ward and now that there's been issues doesn't want you to kick off in case someone produces a bit of paper with your dads signature to show that he discharged himself against medical advice?

Also the complication would probably have happened regardless of where your dad was.

Your description of him on the previous thread; knows what he wants, likes a fuss made over him, demands people taxi him about, expects you to drop everything and run to him on a whim etc don't paint the picture of a frail old man, more like someone who knows exactly how to manipulate w situation to make his son come running.

Having read a lot of the OP's threads about his Dad, I agree with GlasweJen.

My Mum is exactly the same, she tells people all sorts of stuff - I'm sure she really believes it happened (or didn't happen) how she says - but we've caught her out several times.

Butterfly_Brain

NO WAY should our NHS be privatised!
I t should be kept free at point of use, but all the foreign !!!!!!!!!!s who have abused it must be made to pay, the best way is to not allow entry to the country without proper travel insurance, that includes Europeans. If we get sick in most European countries the ECIH card only covers for initial emergency treatment anything more than that has to be paid for and we should adopt the same policy!

Butterfly_Brain

[quote=[Deleted User];discussion/5370019]After this weekend I'd say its time to scrap it and start again. Seems to be populated with too many people who dont give a monkeys and there is zero accountability.

Dad had cateract operation last week. Hes got sight in just one eye. They operated on the other. 10am on Friday they sent him home.

Blind. Hes 81 and lives alone. He lives in a flat up stairs. Hes got more stairs to go the toilet. He can't see to cook food/make a cup of tea. He can't see the numbers to call someone on the phone. He can't read to take his medication. He certainly can't see the eyedrops hes supposed to take.

I saw him on saturday and have spent the whole weekend trying to get some help for him. I must have argued with/threatend 10 people. Standard response is "he should have stayed in hospital, its not out responsibility" (but the ward in question is closed at the weekend). Some of these people I wouldnt let look after my hamster.

Finally got something sorted Sunday evening. At last. What a fight to get that.

Today I have spoken to the ward manager of the ward he was on and asked why he was discharged in a state like this. Her answer "not our fault we close the weekend". And worse still "well he didnt say anything". Hes 81 years of age.

I'm definitely going to complain about this. Its just appalling that this is the state of the NHS in a civilised country.[/QUOTE]

Why couldn't you have taken your Dad home with you and looked after him?

pmduk

OP, I appreciate that you're unhappy by your Father's treatment, yet I've not not seen you make make a constructive comment about about how privatisation would improve his treatment.

GwylimT

Butterfly_Brain wrote: »

NO WAY should our NHS be privatised!
I t should be kept free at point of use, but all the foreign !!!!!!!!!!s who have abused it must be made to pay, the best way is to not allow entry to the country without proper travel insurance, that includes Europeans. If we get sick in most European countries the ECIH card only covers for initial emergency treatment anything more than that has to be paid for and we should adopt the same policy!

Incorrect, the EHIC gives you the same access as a resident of that country.

meer53

You said he has sight in one eye and they operated on the other ? So is he blind or not ? I would never wait for a phone call from a hospital about someone being discharged, in my experience, things happen on wards which can turn things upside down in seconds. Phoning relatives to come and collect family members won't be something top of their list to be fair. Why did a neighbour collect him, you've avoided answering this so far.

sheramber

Personlly, we have had excellent treatment from NHS including my husband having two cataract removals amongst other things.

It seems neither you nor your brother ( who you say drove him back to hospital) considered collecting him from hospital and checking what after care he would need was important.

Poppie68

GwylimT wrote: »

Incorrect, the EHIC gives you the same access as a resident of that country.

The EHIC is for emergency treatment which becomes necessary while in that country. New conditions or pre-existing conditions are covered but it is only for emergency not routine...