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  • damnjet
    damnjet Posts: 89 Forumite
    edited 3 December 2015 at 10:47PM
    Gaz83 wrote: »
    You are missing the point spectacularly.

    What you're wanting is to report the matter to the financial institution and them to involve you in the procedure of what happens next. That's been explained to you countless times. If the institution feel someone is trying to defraud them, that is between them and the person carrying out the potential fraudulent activity. They're not going to invite you in for cosy little chats and explain to you how their investigation is going.

    It's also been explained to you time and time again that if you believe someone is committing fraud against you, you can notify the police. But again, they will not involve you in any investigation.

    The only person making it go round in circles is yourself. Again and for the last time

    What i have learnt from this is how easy it is for scamming fraudsters and generally dishonest people are effectively protected by current banking practices that have few if any procedures in place for people to make legitimate concerns regarding fraud other than to go to the police.

    I understand everything that has been said since post 2. you made your position clear and you do not have to reply further

    Everybody should just go to the police and file a report no matter the evidence, possibly waste their time or get told to bog off, in the mean time this can take forever in a year

    Believe it or not i do appreciate all the replies.First time i have been in this position and its surprisingly frustrating;
  • damnjet
    damnjet Posts: 89 Forumite
    edited 3 December 2015 at 10:52PM
    You can't - that is the point a lot are making to you.

    i understand.
  • damnjet
    damnjet Posts: 89 Forumite
    edited 3 December 2015 at 11:22PM
    For the record if i had sent somebody a copy of a official document as evidence of a transaction i would have no problem whatsoever if the recipient were to get confirmation of it's authenticity from the original source provided the document holder could prove the identity of themselves to the issuer who in turn would notify me in advance before releasing any information. Yes there would be costs and i would be happy to pay fees

    Banks ask for multiple forms of I.D all the time. Passports, Driving licenses, gas bills ect

    I would have nothing to hide. Accept or decline the request

    In a ideal world this is how i would have things setup.

    I accept ultimately its my own fault and i should have got a legal document drawn up to begin with.

    No doubt somebody will now blow a hole right through it,


    Thanks for all your help. Consider it closed.
  • robber2
    robber2 Posts: 559 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    what you need to see is section 6 of the DPA which states;

    What about subject access requests made on behalf of others?

    The Act does not prevent an individual making a subject access request via a third party. Often, this will be a solicitor acting on behalf of a client, but it could simply be that an individual feels comfortable allowing someone else to act for them. In these cases, you need to be satisfied that the third party making the request is entitled to act on behalf of the individual, but it is the third party’s responsibility to provide evidence of this entitlement. This might be a written authority to make the request or it might be a more general power of attorney.


    So get yourself a signed authorisation from the family member then you can contact the bank. I truly hope you can see that there is simply no other way for you to get any iformation from the bank without them breaking the law so if the the family member does not want to cooperate your enquires will hit a brick wall..


    good luck
  • bearcat16
    bearcat16 Posts: 339 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 100 Posts
    I know you're considering it closed now, but here is my idea to find out if it's genuine;

    Ask your friend to call the bank on speakerphone with you present, and ask about the progress of "application 34776"(or whatever number is on the email)

    You'll then either hear the bank employee say "ah yes, I see the details here, the system says it was declined on ..."

    Or

    "I'm afraid there's no record of that"

    Just an idea.
  • SeanG79
    SeanG79 Posts: 977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    For the record if i had sent somebody a copy of a official document as evidence of a transaction i would have no problem whatsoever if the recipient were to get confirmation of it's authenticity from the original source provided the document holder could prove the identity of themselves to the issuer who in turn would notify me in advance before releasing any information. Yes there would be costs and i would be happy to pay fees

    You might be able to do this, if you were registered for the Data Protection Act...
  • damnjet
    damnjet Posts: 89 Forumite
    just thought i would give a update, as of yesterday i have now recovered 80% of what i loaned the rest should be coming shortly. I think the threat of police and legal action brought things along.

    Will never loan money again,
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