UKCPS LTD Scam

DandelionPatrol

stu-d41 wrote: »

I have the same views as they are scamming a lot of people out of their money. seems to be a numbers game with them give as many fake tickets out as possible with the hope a percentage will agree and pay up.

the manager of our gym has filled a complaint with the police but the police have stated it is a civil matter!

I have also informed the IPC who isn't shrugged me off!

I cannot believe how these companies can get away with making thousands of pounds by scamming people out of their money with no repercussions!

It is definitely a fraud and the "it's a civil matter, sir" should be taken up as a complaint against the police.

Half_way

If this is a different site to the previous linked thread, then it may be worth bringing this to the attention of the prankster

The_Deep

If, as they claim, this is contractual charge, it is a fee for parking, and thus vatable. Have they accounted for vat on their paper work? If not it becomes a breach of contract. No vat is payable but it can only be sufficient to compensate them for losses arisingfrom the breach, i.e., no staff uniforms, N.I. contributions, no electricity, business rates etc., a GPEOL in fact. In many cases this loss amounts to nil.

Ask then for a vat invoice. If they ignore your request, (which they probably will), it is a useful stick with which to beat them if it ever gets to court. You could argue ex turpis causa.

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The_Slithy_Tove

The_Deep wrote: »

If, as they claim, this is contractual charge, it is a fee for parking, and thus vatable.

Your standard copy'n'paste response which you put in all UKCPS threads is not helpful in this case, and not particularly relevant where far more dodgy things are going on.

stu-d41

UKCPS use the BPA logo on all their correspondence as well as their website.

upon checking the BPA approved members they are not on the list.


can this be also used against them in court?

DandelionPatrol

stu-d41 wrote: »

UKCPS use the BPA logo on all their correspondence as well as their website.

upon checking the BPA approved members they are not on the list.


can this be also used against them in court?

Not as a general stick to beat them across the head. But if this representation has hampered the resolution of the case prior to court, I reckon it is fair enough to bring it up.

Umkomaas

They are not members of the BPA AOS - identified by a roundel surrounding the BPA oblong logo block. They are but corporate members; the BPA CoP does not apply to them.

In contrast they will be displaying an IPC AOS logo surrounded by a roundel. The IPC CoP applies to them - but they all seem to ignore it, and the IPC appears to provide no disincentive to doing so!

The_Deep

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Your standard copy'n'paste response ...is ot helpful in this case, and not particularly relevant where far more dodgy things are going on.

So, are you condoning tax evasion?. It very much looks like it to me.

The_Slithy_Tove

The_Deep wrote: »

So, are you condoning tax evasion?. It very much looks like it to me.

Not at all. It's just that it's a bit of a side issue in this case, where the entire validity of the charge is in question.

DandelionPatrol

The_Deep wrote: »

So, are you condoning tax evasion?. It very much looks like it to me.

I cannot see that. You are focussing on the parking outfit defrauding Customs and Excise - which, let's face it, it not a direct concern to us, it is actually an argument to make a point.

ST is making the argument that in this case, what is happening is that the parking outfit are attempting - and succeeding - in defrauding ordinary people by issuing fake invoices. Fake because they have no authority to manage parking on the land in question.