school - detention - giving notice

duchy

Or given you lunchtime detention

Most teachers don't want to give out detentions but often it's the only available sanction.

I had a reputation as a TA as @strict@ but I certainly wasn't going to waste my valuable time after school with a child who didn't know how to behave. The kids never worked out that me giving them the rest of the lesson to work off the detention was for my benefit not theirs though !!

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

Because teachers are infallible and never over-react or simply get it wrong and punish the wrong child.

In some alternate universe, anyway. Certainly not in this one where teachers certainly are flawed, prone to error and overreact. At least, some of the ones that taught me were.


I never got a detention or more serious punishment at school. If I had, it would have created a drama as I lived 10 miles from the school and the only way to travel home was the school bus. There was no public transport, and even if there were I had no money for it. I guess the teacher in question would have had to wait until detention was over then drive me home. I saw more than one punishment handed out in error or that was grossly disproportionate though, but this was in the days where teachers had absolute unquestioned authority so you couldn't say anything or tell them they had made a mistake for fear of getting punished yourself for "talking back" (and yes, the prospect of being caned was a serious deterrent).

maman

meritaten wrote: »

as schools always proclaim they are readying pupils for 'the real world' I wonder what world they think we all inhabit? I have NEVER had detention in ANY of the jobs I have done. I don't agree with detention, never have and never will.

I'd have thought there are lots of jobs where you might have to stay late to complete a task. When my DD worked as a bank cashier for a while they had to stay to balance the money however long it took.


But the point isn't that detention per se prepares them for real life but more that children need to learn that actions have consequences. So in the workplace detention would be replaced by disciplinary action.

C_Mababejive

Can anyone point me toward law which permits an adult aka a teacher to detain a child in this way ?

warehouse

HappyMJ wrote: »

Firstly child needs to stay out of trouble. Then this won't be an issue.

Can you possibly be any more up yourself?

ViolaLass

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Can anyone point me toward law which permits an adult aka a teacher to detain a child in this way ?

See posts 7 and 2.

onomatopoeia99

ViolaLass wrote: »

See posts 7 and 2.

Neither gov.uk nor the CAB states the law, just an interpretation. I know from experience of motoring things that the gov.uk website is not wholly reliable and its summaries / interpretations are not always correct.

The only think I would rely on is the relevant legislation.

liney

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

Neither gov.uk nor the CAB states the law, just an interpretation. I know from experience of motoring things that the gov.uk website is not wholly reliable and its summaries / interpretations are not always correct.

The only think I would rely on is the relevant legislation.

It is standard practise that a parent and child both accept the school code of conduct, and which will include the disciplinary proceedure, by signing and returning when the child starts.


If you do not accept the disciplinary policy of a school/s your child will not be permitted to attend, so you will end up home schooling.

dearlouise

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Can anyone point me toward law which permits an adult aka a teacher to detain a child in this way ?

I don't know where you went to school, but children aren't 'detained'. They can quite easily leave a detention, or school in fact, at any time. However the chances are the detention will double, or even triple in duration is a detention isn't completed. Then of course if that one isn't completed either, then it's exclusion. Do that a few times & you as a parent would be handed school transfer papers. Don't like the school... there are many more you can choose to go to.

Though I have a sneaky feeling they're mostly following the same rules and expectations. So home-schooling maybe?!

euronorris

HappyMJ wrote: »

Firstly child needs to stay out of trouble. Then this won't be an issue.

This is obviously ideal, but I had to attend more than one 'class' detentions whilst I was at school. If the majority, or even just a large group, of the class is misbehaving it would not be uncommon for the whole class to receive detention.


Grossly unfair to punish innocents in my opinion, but it did happen, and probably still does. So, not all detentions are avoidable.

pollypenny

Gosh, all these paragons!

I had loads of detentions, up to form 5, anyway. For talking, usually, although once for not doing my chemistry homework.

Detention was on the same day, meaning missing the school bus and having to change buses twice. When I eventually got home, I'd be in trouble for getting detention.