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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,893 Forumite
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    I'd add a further demand that they cease issuing these baseless invoices for the car in future, mentioning that they have a duty to mitigate their costs and each claim will be defended robustly, with an associated bill for your time.
  • Herzlos
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    Half_way wrote: »
    Have you tried a few sacks/plastic sheeting over the cameras on the entry/exit points for the duration of the works? that will solve your problems.

    It'd be a terrible shame if a JCB clipped the camera pole on the way in.
  • The bloke from the hospital was quite aggressive saying that the signs were adequate and they didn't need to be on the compound entrance and we were NOT allowed to photograph anything on site.
  • But let me make this clear in case anyone sees this as you never know who is reading stuff. My company will not be causing any damage!
  • Herzlos
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    No one is suggesting anyone actually hinders the camera; it's useless enough as it is.
    The bloke from the hospital was quite aggressive saying that the signs were adequate and they didn't need to be on the compound entrance and we were NOT allowed to photograph anything on site.

    He's on the defensive because he's aware of how wrong he is. He wants you to just pay up and stop hassling him. They all claim the signs are adequate but to date I don't think we've ever seen a set which actually comply to the BPA Code Of Practice. If it did, they wouldn't get so many infractions (bare in mind the entire profit for these companies is when people breach the rules; they aren't going to make it easy for people to avoid breaches).

    It's an open space, you can take photos of whatever you like.

    Like I said, get some of the ANPR camera and exactly where it is located and where it's pointing. If it's not on the grounds, and pointing into the grounds, it's illegal.
  • Half_way
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    bag on camera, no damage done. bag removed after works complete, everything left as it was before. in one way or another the cameras as they are are interfering with the work.
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • ampersand
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    edited 19 October 2015 at 7:25PM
    Hello julienetmum - ref. your #20.

    Please use only the singular, not plural in the rebuttal, and send one for each notice separately.

    point [f] - strengthen 1st sentence. Suggestion:

    f). Signage external to the construction site is neither compliant, nor applicable to its parking compound. The wider hospital site signage generally is ambiguous and its predominant purpose is to deter . Thus, there is no contract to pay this charge, which is a penalty.
    The only signage on entry to the hospital grounds, mandatory for construction site access, relates only to the hospital's public car parking areas. These are located some distance away from the construction compound.
    To reiterate, there is NO signage on entrance to the compound and no signage or instructions on the touch screen at the compound.

    Compliant and specific parking terms signage must tell drivers what terms and conditions apply.
    There are NO signs, compliant or otherwise, containing the specific parking terms throughout the site, so no construction site driver was given the chance to read them at the time of parking or leaving their vehicle.


    Of course, this goes onto your costs, 'including, but not limited to....' etc.etc.
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  • I've seen the (illicit!) photos.


    There are signs dotted around the complex roads and on the public car park areas. To be able to read the ones on the roads you would have to pull over onto the double yellows and get out of your car to read it. The last sign before the compound is as you turn the corner onto that road.


    Then there is a secure gate into the compound. There is no signage on the gate or in the compound just one saying service vehicles only beyond this point. There is a touchscreen to the right hand side of the door into the reception area where you have to sign in the book. The screen has a P on it and a start here icon but no instructions.
  • ampersand
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    edited 19 October 2015 at 1:21PM
    'There are signs dotted around the complex roads and on the public car park areas. To be able to read the ones on the roads you would have to pull over onto the double yellows and get out of your car to read it. The last sign before the compound is as you turn the corner onto that road.'

    Shades of airport events, well-known here :-)
    #
    Regardless of 'There is a touchscreen to the right hand side of the door into the reception area where you have to sign in the book.', why not be pro-active and firmly announce you will supply a retrospective 'reconciliation' white-list daily, weekly, whatever works for you, so 'neither you nor our Company waste further time and incur further cost.'
    [with this mse;)]
    #
    Not knowing your contract duration, op, general education site-wide is necessary, if only to protect future sub-contracting potential for you.
    Decision may be 'never again with all that aggro.', but you don't want that 'aggressive' response continuing via chat and vibe.

    In fact, it's already happening, with that 'naughty' call re: your perfectly legally taken pics. This scenario is heading for more trouble.
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Contact the comms team at the hospital, they will sort this out.


    hospitals don't want bad press.
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