Seller lied on property questionaire - Electrical fire

sean1989_2

Sorry for DP - also apologies these are not links - apparently i cant post links yet

Theres a lot more damage behind the cover - but i couldnt snap these as electrician was not a fan of me taking pictures - nor was i looking at keeping him there for more than i needed to at £70.00 call out fee!

Here are some pictures that i snapped

Damage to the upstairs shower wire
imgur.com/IJJo35k

Damage to the shower 30A fuse
imgur.com/y5U4Hv5

Damage to the shower safety cover
imgur.com/2Bnpn9o

CU with scorch
imgur.com/aDtnqW4

Damage to where the shower wire was
imgur.com/5UKFcJE

Close up of above
imgur.com/x6j6a8e

Scorch
mgur.com/rk2JWqY


Where the wire used to run to kitchen
imgur.com/BrHnpoP

Old wiring to kitchen plus new wiring upstairs
imgur.com/BEfT59W

Both together to show
imgur.com/uMMmBgd

Old point of entry/exit?
imgur.com/gnODO6x

cattermole

sean1989 wrote: »

That completly slipped my mind - the company that came out are registered as "joiners" so im thinking they may not be gas safe registered either...

the shower wire was 10mm i think the electrician said - but its fried

He has said that there is far too much output for what the CU can handle ( possible the reason everything went during a shower)

I'm not an electrician all I know is our electric shower which is on a separate circuit as it should be from when the house was built 25 years ago cannot have a shower of above 8w max for the size of wire when replaced. Otherwise it would need rewiring for a thicker cable.

We had our freestanding gas cooker replaced a few years back now about 10 and paid for installation with Curry's and a building reg /compliance form was provided as part of that installation charge.

ManuelG

sean1989 wrote: »

Here are some pictures that i snapped

Damage to the upstairs shower wire
http://i.imgur.com/IJJo35k.jpg

Damage to the shower 30A fuse
http://i.imgur.com/y5U4Hv5.jpg

Damage to the shower safety cover
http://i.imgur.com/2Bnpn9o.jpg

CU with scorch
http://i.imgur.com/aDtnqW4.jpg

Damage to where the shower wire was
http://i.imgur.com/5UKFcJE.jpg

Close up of above
http://i.imgur.com/x6j6a8e.jpg

Scorch
http://i.imgur.com/rk2JWqY.jpg


Where the wire used to run to kitchen
http://i.imgur.com/BrHnpoP.jpg

Old wiring to kitchen plus new wiring upstairs
http://i.imgur.com/BEfT59W.jpg

Both together to show
http://i.imgur.com/uMMmBgd.jpg

Old point of entry/exit?
http://i.imgur.com/gnODO6x.jpg

Just so the links work.

cattermole

sean1989 wrote: »

Sorry for DP - also apologies these are not links - apparently i cant post links yet

Theres a lot more damage behind the cover - but i couldnt snap these as electrician was not a fan of me taking pictures - nor was i looking at keeping him there for more than i needed to at £70.00 call out fee!

Here are some pictures that i snapped

Damage to the upstairs shower wire
imgur.com/IJJo35k

Damage to the shower 30A fuse
imgur.com/y5U4Hv5

Damage to the shower safety cover
imgur.com/2Bnpn9o

CU with scorch
imgur.com/aDtnqW4

Damage to where the shower wire was
imgur.com/5UKFcJE

Close up of above
imgur.com/x6j6a8e

Scorch
mgur.com/rk2JWqY


Where the wire used to run to kitchen
imgur.com/BrHnpoP

Old wiring to kitchen plus new wiring upstairs
imgur.com/BEfT59W

Both together to show
imgur.com/uMMmBgd

Old point of entry/exit?
imgur.com/gnODO6x

I'm no expert but the property does look like it obviously needs a lot of work doing on it.

fashionvictim

sean1989 wrote: »

Again i cant stress enough that if the box was ticked "yes" to electrical amendments - i would have immediatly kicked up a fuss - as this was marked as "no" i clearly let my guard down.

As I'm a selling my flat and had all the paperwork out I know the person we brought from ticked no to electrical amendants, but it still needed a partial rewire, had a newish shower pump and a DIY dodgy socket ( which was noted on homebuyers report) I was a first time buyer, but my conveyancer never mentioned anything about safety.

I just don't see how no admendments = safe. Especially in an older property. I guess I am not very trusting!!

I actually think there is so much I didn't know about house buying then and going through my first sale is a big learning curve. I do feel for you OP. A sale certainly teaches you more on what you should have than a purchase !!

There are so many threads about this type of thing and trying to get compensation. I wonder how many people actually get anywhere?

sean1989_2

Ill be posting my progress to see if im successful or not, it can then hopefully be the foundations for any other person to complain. How is there no regulations in place for these things to be checked is what gets me

G_M

Is this thread for real? Troll?

No one can be that naive surely?

OP does not seem to know if he had a survey or not, and if he did, never read it?

:huh:

No boiler or electrical check?

Seller said more information was 'to follow' on electrics but OP agreed to Exchange without waiting?

I'm just waiting for him to find a grave in the garden.............

sean1989_2

G_M wrote: »

Is this thread for real? Troll?

No one can be that naive surely?

OP does not seem to know if he had a survey or not, and if he did, never read it?

:huh:

No boiler or electrical check?

Seller said more information was 'to follow' on electrics but OP agreed to Exchange without waiting?

I'm just waiting for him to find a grave in the garden.............

Well no, not exactly,
All the paperwork was submitted to the solicitors and they dealt with everything - from the forms being completed the solicitor should have chased up " to follow" not us. When the exchange was complete we were not notified of anything or missing information... I imagine that we should have been advised much better

cattermole

sean1989 wrote: »

Ill be posting my progress to see if im successful or not, it can then hopefully be the foundations for any other person to complain. How is there no regulations in place for these things to be checked is what gets me

I would still argue because 12.1 was ticked NO so no electrical safety checks had been carried out IMO solicitor should have highlighted this to you.

Our buyers solicitor asked us to provide one! And we had had one done in 2007 and paperwork provided to them. He still asked.

The point is he highlighted it and was advocating for his client.

Every 10 years is what is recommended.

So we said no but they were more than welcome to have one done at their cost if they chose, I sought advice here on whether we should do it at our cost.

sean1989_2

cattermole wrote: »

I would still argue because 12.1 was ticked NO so no electrical safety checks had been carried out IMO solicitor should have highlighted this to you.

Our buyers solicitor asked us to provide one! And we had had one done in 2007 and paperwork provided to them. He still asked.

The point is he highlighted it and was advocating for his client.

Every 10 years is what is recommended.

So we said no but they were more than welcome to have one done at their cost if they chose, I sought advice here on whether we should do it at our cost.

I would have paid for it, it was never offered so presumed i had paid for it in all the fees. I imagine that the conceyance services will have excuses upon excuses tomorrow