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Tax credits cut petition

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  • Signed and shared, thanks for posting.
  • beecher2
    beecher2 Posts: 3,677 Forumite
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    To be honest the threads on this subject have been a real eye opener for me and I believe there is a strong case for reform of tax credits. I think they have encouraged low pay and too many people have chosen to work only a few hours and have their wages topped up by quite eye watering levels.

    I would be wary of signing this as it is just a way for labour to find out contact details of possible supporters. Doubt if it will be form an official petition,
  • tea-bag
    tea-bag Posts: 548 Forumite
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    Completely agree with this.

    Although I do not agree with how they have made the changes, changes were needed.

    The changes should have been made to the eligibility criteria

    As it now stands, those employed 30hrs with no children or disabilities will not qualify unless they are self employed and earning under NMW or have only worked part year.

    In my opinion, parents working full time is doable. The should only be a choice not to work if you can afford it. The issue here is with ridiculously high childcare.

    In my area, if you work full time on NMW, after paying childcare you'd have £300 to pay rent/mortgage, bills, food etc.

    So unless something is done to reduce childcare expenses for parents, with the exception of those who are deemed as 'incapacitated for tax credits' -
    - Single parents with primary school children should be working at least 20/25hrs depending on how far they are to school for pick ups.
    - Couples with primary school children should have at least one full time worker, preferably the other also working part time.
    - Parents with children at high school should all be required to work full time.

    Or you could plan for kids when you can afford them without state help. Or one partner works 50 hours a week to support both.
  • signed and shared
    i have to say that everyone seems to think that tax credits are something entirely new,doesn't anyone remember their predecessor?F.I.S,which was an income top up for those on low income,i remember we got it for a while in the late 90s
  • System
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    Completely agree with this.

    Although I do not agree with how they have made the changes, changes were needed.

    The changes should have been made to the eligibility criteria

    As it now stands, those employed 30hrs with no children or disabilities will not qualify unless they are self employed and earning under NMW or have only worked part year.

    In my opinion, parents working full time is doable. The should only be a choice not to work if you can afford it. The issue here is with ridiculously high childcare.

    In my area, if you work full time on NMW, after paying childcare you'd have £300 to pay rent/mortgage, bills, food etc.

    So unless something is done to reduce childcare expenses for parents, with the exception of those who are deemed as 'incapacitated for tax credits' -
    - Single parents with primary school children should be working at least 20/25hrs depending on how far they are to school for pick ups.
    - Couples with primary school children should have at least one full time worker, preferably the other also working part time.
    - Parents with children at high school should all be required to work full time.
    I didn't think those with disabilities would qualify either? Seeing as the government didn't actually protect the disability element.
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  • System
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    The disability element is the only one that will actually be increased.

    They will also still qualify if earning less than £16,000 (approx) compared to someone without disability that will no longer qualify if earning more than £10,500 (approx).
    Ah didn't realise that info had been released. Thank you for correcting me. :)
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  • dizzybuff
    dizzybuff Posts: 1,512 Forumite
    edited 7 October 2015 at 4:51AM
    tea-bag wrote: »
    Or you could plan for kids when you can afford them without state help. Or one partner works 50 hours a week to support both.

    When I had my kids with my ex husband we could afford them. Now I am single working full time, so I can attempt to keep a roof over my kids heads food on the table. Ctc helps me do this. I am in no way a scrounger. I didn't ask to be single. He downgraded.
    ONE HOUSE , DS+ DD Missymoo Living a day at a time and getting through this mess you have created.
    One day life will have no choice but to be nice to me :rotfl:
  • dizzybuff
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    woodbine wrote: »
    signed and shared
    i have to say that everyone seems to think that tax credits are something entirely new,doesn't anyone remember their predecessor?F.I.S,which was an income top up for those on low income,i remember we got it for a while in the late 90s

    Thankyou. As ypu stated it is an income top up. Mine helps me pay my childcare so I can work. Those that think that maintenance should be an income, well I'm sorry it's not mine. It's my children's it is not taxed and has subsequently been tax paid by the absent parent.

    I'm sure we can declare my kids as having their maintenance as their income and get them taxed on it. Oh wait it won't meet the tax threshold and they are both under 16.. Bummer
    ONE HOUSE , DS+ DD Missymoo Living a day at a time and getting through this mess you have created.
    One day life will have no choice but to be nice to me :rotfl:
  • MABLE
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    A friend of mine claims single persons WTC and according to the calculator high lighted on this thread he will be £408 a year worst off. Yes the tax bill is reduced by £80 a year but he already gets £7.20 an hour this goes up this month for him to £7.30. So how can be no worse off.
  • WYSPECIAL
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    cifpower wrote: »
    It was not a bill. It was a statutory instrument which amended the original Tax Credits Act. It was a one time vote. It passed.

    My thinking exactly. It means any petition is far too late and merely political spin by the opposition.
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