Tax credits cut petition

dizzybuff

Sign the petition please x we need to do everything in our power to try and stop these cuts.

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/tory-tax-credit-cut

tomtontom

I won't be signing. I actually think they should go further and count child maintenance as income.

jjj1980

tomtontom wrote: »

I won't be signing. I actually think they should go further and count child maintenance as income.

The only way to do that fairly would be to return to the original CSA setup where the resident parent was paid whether the non-resident parent had made the payment or not. Otherwise there would a huge amount of resident parents with lowered tax credits due to the child support assessment that are actually not receiving the child support either.

My case with CSA is one of these!! The case is with Bailiffs and I am still not getting anything as the non-resident parent refuses to pay!

_CC_

dizzybuff wrote: »

Sign the petition please x we need to do everything in our power to try and stop these cuts.

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/tory-tax-credit-cut

No thanks

HTH x

tomtontom

jjj1980 wrote: »

The only way to do that fairly would be to return to the original CSA setup where the resident parent was paid whether the non-resident parent had made the payment or not. Otherwise there would a huge amount of resident parents with lowered tax credits due to the child support assessment that are actually not receiving the child support either.

My case with CSA is one of these!! The case is with Bailiffs and I am still not getting anything as the non-resident parent refuses to pay!

Yes, that was what I meant - actual income received and not some notional figure - to take into account that some receive less and some far more than the statutory amount.

WYSPECIAL

dizzybuff wrote: »

Sign the petition please x we need to do everything in our power to try and stop these cuts.

http://www.labour.org.uk/page/s/tory-tax-credit-cut

Isn't it a bit late now it has been voted through?

rogerblack

WYSPECIAL wrote: »

Isn't it a bit late now it has been voted through?

Various amending stages are still possible, and indeed the bill could fail entirely if enough support is gained in the lords and commons.

In practice, it is unlikely a government with even a slim majority and without utter unonymity in the opposition would have a flagship policy such as this fail without significant revolt.

It is possible there may be small alterations at the edges, but it seems extremely unlikely any of the core proposals will be voted down.

The one I find most unfair is that people who are found unfit for work, and found unlikely to be so for years are reduced to the same income as those on JSA, as it reduces their 'perverse incentives' to stay on benefit.

Even those with progressively worsening conditions that are never expected to improve.

jjj1980

If they could guarantee my child support payments, then I wouldn't have an issue with them reducing my Tax Credits by that amount. However, I don't think my assessment would make much dent in the TC bill - it's only £25 per week!


What is wrong, with the whole benefits system, is that by trying to better yourself via employment income, once the reductions are made to the benefits being received, it is common to end up financially worse off. This should never be the case. If that means a stop to the reductions in Tax Credits, then so be it.


There are far more things the government could reduce spending on/cease spend altogether before looking at benefit cuts. But that's a whole other discussion!

cifpower

rogerblack wrote: »

Various amending stages are still possible, and indeed the bill could fail entirely if enough support is gained in the lords and commons.

In practice, it is unlikely a government with even a slim majority and without utter unonymity in the opposition would have a flagship policy such as this fail without significant revolt.

It is possible there may be small alterations at the edges, but it seems extremely unlikely any of the core proposals will be voted down.

The one I find most unfair is that people who are found unfit for work, and found unlikely to be so for years are reduced to the same income as those on JSA, as it reduces their 'perverse incentives' to stay on benefit.

Even those with progressively worsening conditions that are never expected to improve.

It was not a bill. It was a statutory instrument which amended the original Tax Credits Act. It was a one time vote. It passed.

When, before the election, we were told that the Tories would enact a £12bn cut in welfare, and then people voted to give them an outright majority, what exactly did people think would happen?

bloolagoon

rogerblack wrote: »

Various amending stages are still possible, and indeed the bill could fail entirely if enough support is gained in the lords and commons.

In practice, it is unlikely a government with even a slim majority and without utter unonymity in the opposition would have a flagship policy such as this fail without significant revolt.

It is possible there may be small alterations at the edges, but it seems extremely unlikely any of the core proposals will be voted down.

The one I find most unfair is that people who are found unfit for work, and found unlikely to be so for years are reduced to the same income as those on JSA, as it reduces their 'perverse incentives' to stay on benefit.

Even those with progressively worsening conditions that are never expected to improve.

I absolutely 100% agree. Yet tax credits are the one everyone is hyping up.

rogerblack

cifpower wrote: »

It was not a bill. It was a statutory instrument which amended the original Tax Credits Act. It was a one time vote. It passed.

When, before the election, we were told that the Tories would enact a £12bn cut in welfare, and then people voted to give them an outright majority, what exactly did people think would happen?

Apologies, crossed wires.
I was thinking of the Welfare Reform 15/16 bill.