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Right to buy (passing it onto family member?)

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  • AdrianC
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    From what I read, Nan wishes her Grandson to be on the property with her

    The OP doesn't currently, and appears to have no desire to, live with his grandmother - so would not be entitled to be a joint tenant with her.
    and does not want to give it back to council.

    There's no suggestion of her moving out - quite the opposite.
    After a 60 year lifetime tenancy, Nan has the right to keep the property in the family if she wants by exercising her right to buy.

    Yes, she does. But she can't afford to. So her grandson can fund it - but he wants the property to be in his name, not hers. RtB doesn't work like that.

    Go back and look at page 1 of the thread. Posts 3, 4 and 5 say exactly that, factually and without being emotive. Then the OP comes back in post 6, and he clearly states that it's about keeping the house after his "very ill" grandmother passes away. By post 9 and 10, the OP is talking the area and property down - at which point it starts to become very clear that he is not interested in living there himself.
    If Grandson is in a position to help facilitate that I don't see what the issue is.

    There really is just one question... would it actually be in HER interest to own the property...?
  • seasideme
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    Ok, an oversight on my part. However, my point is still relevant. OP can inherit the property as a grandchild provided they were living there 12 months before the secure Tenant passed away.

    Also going by the above the Op can move Nan into his away from the 'ponces' and 'junkie scumbags' and still claim they lived with the tenant for 12 months and inherit the tenancy. Good innit?:T

    He doesn't want to inherit the tenancy though, he wants to buy the house, with her still living there. There is no talk of her dying anytime soon.

    Who was originally on the tenancy? If it has already passed to the nan from her husband then it can't be passed on again
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  • AdrianC
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    seasideme wrote: »
    He doesn't want to inherit the tenancy though, he wants to buy the house, with her still living there. There is no talk of her dying anytime soon.

    Post #6 in the thread...
    harryboyy wrote: »
    My nan is very ill and wants to keep it in the family by passing it to me rather than giving it back to the council
  • seasideme
    seasideme Posts: 109 Forumite
    edited 7 October 2015 at 12:39PM
    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    Council tenancies can usually only be succeeded once though. So if there was ever a granddad and gran had a joint tenancy with him and then had a sole tenancy of her own then it has already been succeeded once.

    From Shelter's website:

    "The right for a tenancy to be passed on when a tenant dies is known as succession. A council tenancy can only be inherited once unless the tenancy agreement allows for more than one succession."

    As for living with his gran for 12 months and then applying together, yes he could do this. Only the OP can decided if living among ponces, junkies and scumbags is worth £103,900. I suspect he would fit right in.

    I just wish when people were considering this they a) used the search function and b) didn't make out like they were doing it for dear old granny's sake and just admitted they were doing it to line their own pockets.

    Ah come on, he doesn't have to actually live there, just have his mail addressed there, maybe a bill in his name, have the nan claim he does etc. Isn't that how it goes?
    Lewisham Council in South East London has some of the worst looking council properties ever as does Newham in East London. Lewisham appear to be very good at maintaining their period properties from what I can gather from the outside but walking into some of places where their flats are is like venturing into a third world ghetto. Peeling paint work, broken down garage doors and rubbish strewn everywhere.

    Don't get me started on Newham which has the highest instances of flytipping in London.

    Also when I lived in Council Property I used to wait weeks in the dead of winter for them to come and fix my 20 year boiler which always broke down. One time I was left without hot water, heat or even gas to cook for a whole two weeks! Dodgy contractors would turn up, have a look the job, proclaim that more parts needed to be ordered and go. (Apparently, they would charge the council for turning up) I remember the amount of stress (sitting through exams and working full time) I would go through trying to get them to come back and be given the same old story again and again. I even offered to pay to have the boiler fixed during that time but was told that was not allowed. The council refused to replace , the boiler opting to patch it up with parts instead. There is another story where these contractors left messed up my timer so I couldn't turn off the heating for about several days straight until they decided to turn up to fix it. The bill that followed was huge. Again the council refused to take responsisibilty.

    Then there was a time there was a huge back surge in my flat. I came home from work with my flat flooded with stagnant water. All my carpets plus my laptop were ruined. A student at the time the council refused to take responsibility and I got several nasty letters written by their lawyers convincing me to that the back surge had nothing to do with the council. It took me years to replace everything. I have so many stories but I will stop there.

    I am grateful that I was in the right place at the right time and given a council flat and I am also glad I was given the right to buy as now I am in charge of where I live, who maintains it etc. The area I live in has also been gentrified, which is a plus as it was considered run down when I moved in so that is also a plus.

    I lived for a short time in social/council housing in Lewisham/Bromley. Sure they had a new kitchen & bathroom but the rest of the place was up to the tenant to sort out. One place where my partner had lived since primary school (he is now in his 50s) had tiles missing in the hallway, polystyrene tiles on the ceiling. Have you seen the state of many balconies/gardens? It tends to be those working professionals who keep a nice house.

    You clearly haven't been to elephant & castle or Battersea/Clapham
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  • seasideme
    seasideme Posts: 109 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Post #6 in the thread...

    and? that doesn't mean she is about to leave this earth any time soon. To get the tenancy (as long as this is the 1st transfer) he needs to be at the address for at least 12 months.

    Is he wanting the RtB as she will be gone within 12 months so the only way he can keep the place.
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  • SnooksNJ
    SnooksNJ Posts: 829 Forumite
    Lewisham Council in South East London has some of the worst looking council properties ever as does Newham in East London. Lewisham appear to be very good at maintaining their period properties from what I can gather from the outside but walking into some of places where their flats are is like venturing into a third world ghetto. Peeling paint work, broken down garage doors and rubbish strewn everywhere.

    .


    Picking up council tenants garbage thrown all over their flats is part of their lease agreements? That's a good deal because my neighbor pays her cleaner £50 a week.
  • Pixie5740
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    As of 1st August 2016 RTB will cease to exist in Scotland. The rest of UK (as with most housing matters in my opinion) should catch up.
  • densol_2
    densol_2 Posts: 1,189 Forumite
    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    As of 1st August 2016 RTB will cease to exist in Scotland. The rest of UK (as with most housing matters in my opinion) should catch up.

    But Cameron is talking about extending it to Housing Association property soon ! It's madness ...... Maybe even extend it to make private landlords give big bucks discounts too ( shudder )
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  • densol wrote: »
    Maybe even extend it to make private landlords give big bucks discounts too ( shudder )

    Think you'd fnd Corbyn would be in favour of that more than Cameron tbh.
  • AdrianC
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    seasideme wrote: »
    and? that doesn't mean she is about to leave this earth any time soon.

    Given that the question you asked was about inheriting the tenancy...
    To get the tenancy (as long as this is the 1st transfer) he needs to be at the address for at least 12 months.

    And we know he has no intention to live amongst ponces, junkie scumbags and his grandmother.
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