Right to buy (passing it onto family member?)

Money_maker

delicious11 wrote: »

A lot of people are jealous of of those who have lifetime tenancies via the council. It is sickening to be honest. Anyone who has lived in council properties knows that they do not maintain them as well as they should and most times they use substandard materials or contractors to do so.

Yes but you try to explain that to an octogenarian who couldn't get onto the social housing list. You try to explain why council tenants have been able to spend their income on holidays and expensive home purchases whilst others have had to watch and save every penny to pay the mortgage. You explain about the poor council tenants who live in such poorly maintained properties which are all 'poorly maintained' for them. Then you look at the real world and just feel jolly lucky that you were in the right place at the right time to be allowed one of these 'substandard' properties.

jaylee3

delicious11 wrote: »

A lot of people are jealous of of those who have lifetime tenancies via the council. It is sickening to be honest. Anyone who has lived in council properties knows that they do not maintain them as well as they should and most times they use substandard materials or contractors to do so.

I do see some bitter and jealous posts and catty on here aimed at people in social housing - and they are usually from people who can barely afford to pay their mortgage and for repairs to their home, and they are miffed that social housing tenants appear to have 'everything done for them.' And I have heard people saying they feel resentful that Mr and Mrs X and Mr and Mrs Y down the road have had about 8 grands worth of stuff done to their house, (new windows, new soffits, new doors, new rooves etc.)

But I have yet to see or experience a council or HA that lets their properties go to rack and ruin. Every one I know of keeps the properties nice and does repairs and maintenance quite regularly, and they frequently look way better than the people who exercised the right to buy..

So where the heck are YOU on about? What councils do nothing to their properties? Or did you just make that up?

King_Nothing

Glad this thread popped up was about to ask something similar, contemplating buying my parents council house in the near future if possible, links posted up has confirmed it should be ok for me to do this, thanks.

Pixie5740

jaylee3 wrote: »

'Blood is thicker than water' my backside!

And custard is even thicker.

tlc678910

If the OP wants to try to manipulate rules designed to protect people from losing their ACTUAL HOME when their parents die (for example) he could move in with his nan.

I don't know if he would inherit his nan's right to buy in this case or need to build up his own - in which case he will need to live with the "junkie scumbabgs" for a few years before he applies and a few more after so he doesn't have to repay the discount.

If he is money grabbing enough to go through all this he might be a few quid better off having compromised his quality of life living in a "terrible area" for quite some time.

OP your nan has "benefited" from living in a council house. For many elderly people the heating breaking down means living in a cold house for quite some time or starting down the road of equity release to find money for repairs. For your nan it's a call to the Council who would no doubt aim to get it fixed within 24-48 hours. If it took 7 days I expect relatives would be fuming!

Were you expecting a warm reception when you posted a question to ask how you could manipulate our creaking to the point of breaking social housing system in order to make a fast buck for yourself? Although you do seem to have found a couple of people willing to pick through the rules for loop holes you could exploit.

As for jealousy of people who are lucky enough to get council housing, when you're nan passes after a lifetime of secure housing another lucky family in desperate housing need will be offered her property (they are perhaps all living in one room of a hostel right now!). Perhaps you should have a think about that.

delicious11

jaylee3 wrote: »

I do see some bitter and jealous posts and catty on here aimed at people in social housing - and they are usually from people who can barely afford to pay their mortgage and for repairs to their home, and they are miffed that social housing tenants appear to have 'everything done for them.' And I have heard people saying they feel resentful that Mr and Mrs X and Mr and Mrs Y down the road have had about 8 grands worth of stuff done to their house, (new windows, new soffits, new doors, new rooves etc.)

But I have yet to see or experience a council or HA that lets their properties go to rack and ruin. Every one I know of keeps the properties nice and does repairs and maintenance quite regularly, and they frequently look way better than the people who exercised the right to buy..

So where the heck are YOU on about? What councils do nothing to their properties? Or did you just make that up?

Lewisham Council in South East London has some of the worst looking council properties ever as does Newham in East London. Lewisham appear to be very good at maintaining their period properties from what I can gather from the outside but walking into some of places where their flats are is like venturing into a third world ghetto. Peeling paint work, broken down garage doors and rubbish strewn everywhere.

Don't get me started on Newham which has the highest instances of flytipping in London.

Also when I lived in Council Property I used to wait weeks in the dead of winter for them to come and fix my 20 year boiler which always broke down. One time I was left without hot water, heat or even gas to cook for a whole two weeks! Dodgy contractors would turn up, have a look the job, proclaim that more parts needed to be ordered and go. (Apparently, they would charge the council for turning up) I remember the amount of stress (sitting through exams and working full time) I would go through trying to get them to come back and be given the same old story again and again. I even offered to pay to have the boiler fixed during that time but was told that was not allowed. The council refused to replace , the boiler opting to patch it up with parts instead. There is another story where these contractors left messed up my timer so I couldn't turn off the heating for about several days straight until they decided to turn up to fix it. The bill that followed was huge. Again the council refused to take responsisibilty.

Then there was a time there was a huge back surge in my flat. I came home from work with my flat flooded with stagnant water. All my carpets plus my laptop were ruined. A student at the time the council refused to take responsibility and I got several nasty letters written by their lawyers convincing me to that the back surge had nothing to do with the council. It took me years to replace everything. I have so many stories but I will stop there.

I am grateful that I was in the right place at the right time and given a council flat and I am also glad I was given the right to buy as now I am in charge of where I live, who maintains it etc. The area I live in has also been gentrified, which is a plus as it was considered run down when I moved in so that is also a plus.

seasideme

harryboyy wrote: »

Greedy relatives? Wait who even said I'm selling it!? Assumptions, I could live here, remove my nan's rent and let her know that it's staying within the family rather than going to a load of junkie scumbags like the rest of the estate is full of nowadays.

We would also be able to pay for anything she needs if she was to go into a care home but I would never do that, firstly I don't need a mortgage as I have the money easily and won't have to worry about the property for many years.

why the hell would you want to buy a house in should a !!!! area? Get a mortgage and move your nan out

AdrianC

delicious11 wrote: »

Lewisham Council in South East London has some of the worst looking council properties ever as does Newham in East London. Lewisham appear to be very good at maintaining their period properties from what I can gather from the outside but walking into some of places where their flats are is like venturing into a third world ghetto. Peeling paint work, broken down garage doors and rubbish strewn everywhere.

Don't get me started on Newham which has the highest instances of flytipping in London.

Also when I lived in Council Property I used to wait weeks in the dead of winter for them to come and fix my 20 year boiler which always broke down. One time I was left without hot water, heat or even gas to cook for a whole two weeks! Dodgy contractors would turn up, have a look the job, proclaim that more parts needed to be ordered and go. (Apparently, they would charge the council for turning up) I remember the amount of stress (sitting through exams and working full time) I would go through trying to get them to come back and be given the same old story again and again. I even offered to pay to have the boiler fixed during that time but was told that was not allowed. The council refused to replace , the boiler opting to patch it up with parts instead. There is another story where these contractors left messed up my timer so I couldn't turn off the heating for about several days straight until they decided to turn up to fix it. The bill that followed was huge. Again the council refused to take responsisibilty.

Then there was a time there was a huge back surge in my flat. I came home from work with my flat flooded with stagnant water. All my carpets plus my laptop were ruined. A student at the time the council refused to take responsibility and I got several nasty letters written by their lawyers convincing me to that the back surge had nothing to do with the council. It took me years to replace everything. I have so many stories but I will stop there.

I am grateful that I was in the right place at the right time and given a council flat and I am also glad I was given the right to buy as now I am in charge of where I live, who maintains it etc. The area I live in has also been gentrified, which is a plus as it was considered run down when I moved in so that is also a plus.

You make it sound as if this lifetime tenancy really isn't anything at all to be jealous of, and the OP'd be better off moving his grandmother away from such a dump, even before taking the ponces and junkie scumbags into account.

It certainly doesn't sound like anywhere anybody in their right mind would want to buy...

Pixie5740

delicious11 wrote: »

Lewisham Council in South East London has some of the worst looking council properties ever as does Newham in East London. Lewisham appear to be very good at maintaining their period properties from what I can gather from the outside but walking into some of places where their flats are is like venturing into a third world ghetto. Peeling paint work, broken down garage doors and rubbish strewn everywhere.

Don't get me started on Newham which has the highest instances of flytipping in London.

Also when I lived in Council Property I used to wait weeks in the dead of winter for them to come and fix my 20 year boiler which always broke down. One time I was left without hot water, heat or even gas to cook for a whole two weeks! Dodgy contractors would turn up, have a look the job, proclaim that more parts needed to be ordered and go. (Apparently, they would charge the council for turning up) I remember the amount of stress (sitting through exams and working full time) I would go through trying to get them to come back and be given the same old story again and again. I even offered to pay to have the boiler fixed during that time but was told that was not allowed. The council refused to replace , the boiler opting to patch it up with parts instead. There is another story where these contractors left messed up my timer so I couldn't turn off the heating for about several days straight until they decided to turn up to fix it. The bill that followed was huge. Again the council refused to take responsisibilty.

Then there was a time there was a huge back surge in my flat. I came home from work with my flat flooded with stagnant water. All my carpets plus my laptop were ruined. A student at the time the council refused to take responsibility and I got several nasty letters written by their lawyers convincing me to that the back surge had nothing to do with the council. It took me years to replace everything. I have so many stories but I will stop there.

I am grateful that I was in the right place at the right time and given a council flat and I am also glad I was given the right to buy as now I am in charge of where I live, who maintains it etc. The area I live in has also been gentrified, which is a plus as it was considered run down when I moved in so that is also a plus.

Do you think that tenants living in private rented accommodation do not face the same problems? The difference being that when some of them ask for repairs and it is escalated up to environmental health they are hit with a Section 21. Thankfully steps are being taken to prevent these retaliatory evictions.

Private tenants also have to live without security. Can they stay in the property for more than 12 months? Will a letting agency try and scalp them for renewal fees? Will the landlord decide to sell or take offence at some slight they imagine and evict?

So as you can see council tenants don't have it that bad really. The other man's grass is always greener.

delicious11

tlc678910 wrote: »

If the OP wants to try to manipulate rules designed to protect people from losing their ACTUAL HOME when their parents die (for example) he could move in with his nan.

I don't know if he would inherit his nan's right to buy in this case or need to build up his own - in which case he will need to live with the "junkie scumbabgs" for a few years before he applies and a few more after so he doesn't have to repay the discount.

If he is money grabbing enough to go through all this he might be a few quid better off having compromised his quality of life living in a "terrible area" for quite some time.

OP your nan has "benefited" from living in a council house. For many elderly people the heating breaking down means living in a cold house for quite some time or starting down the road of equity release to find money for repairs. For your nan it's a call to the Council who would no doubt aim to get it fixed within 24-48 hours. If it took 7 days I expect relatives would be fuming!

Were you expecting a warm reception when you posted a question to ask how you could manipulate our creaking to the point of breaking social housing system in order to make a fast buck for yourself? Although you do seem to have found a couple of people willing to pick through the rules for loop holes you could exploit.

As for jealousy of people who are lucky enough to get council housing, when you're nan passes after a lifetime of secure housing another lucky family in desperate housing need will be offered her property (they are perhaps all living in one room of a hostel right now!). Perhaps you should have a think about that.

Where are people getting this notion that Social landlords are the perfect 10? In case you don't know, it is not unheard of for a council to leave you in the thick of winter without heating or hot water for weeks on end all in the quest for parts for decrepit old boilers that they refuse to replace. I have lived it and know many others who have.

I also know someone who had the ceiling cave because of a leaking water tank in the loft while they were asleep in the bedroom at 2am. This was after a series of calls to the council informing them that there was an issue with the plumbing. The council's response, "Get bucket!". It then took them another three months to get the thing fixed.