Right to buy (passing it onto family member?)

delicious11

Pixie5740 wrote: »

Do you think that tenants living in private rented accommodation do not face the same problems? The difference being that when some of them ask for repairs and it is escalated up to environmental health they are hit with a Section 21. Thankfully steps are being taken to prevent these retaliatory evictions.

Private tenants also have to live without security. Can they stay in the property for more than 12 months? Will a letting agency try and scalp them for renewal fees? Will the landlord decide to sell or take offence at some slight they imagine and evict?

So as you can see council tenants don't have it that bad really. The other man's grass is always greener.

I doubt a Private Landlord would ignore a serious repair required of their property which would allow it to fall into a state of disrepair.

In any case this is about lifetime tenants been given the right to buy their properties not about private tenants. A lot of people nowadays think council tenants have it easy but the truth of the matter is most of these council tenants accepted run down properties from the council back in the day when others looked down on that option and chose private for a better quality dwelling. Back then, paying full rent for a council property was the same as a private one. Now the tables have turned and there seems to be some sort of witch hunt of those who have lived in council dwelling for years by those who have been subjected to rent hikes by their private landlords.


In regards to OP, If Nan who has lived in property for nearly 60years and wants to keep it in the family by allowing her grandson to help her buy it, people really should stop making grand assumptions as to the OP's intentions. It is catty to say the least.

delicious11

AdrianC wrote: »

You make it sound as if this lifetime tenancy really isn't anything at all to be jealous of, and the OP'd be better off moving his grandmother away from such a dump, even before taking the ponces and junkie scumbags into account.

It certainly doesn't sound like anywhere anybody in their right mind would want to buy...

Not sure what you mean.

I am just confused as to why people are comparing the conditions of a lifetime council tenancy and the rights that it entails to that of a 12 month private tenancy.

Pixie5740

delicious11 wrote: »

I doubt a Private Landlord would ignore a serious repair required of their property which would allow it to fall into a state of disrepair.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Did you ever watch the Panorama episode "The Great Housing Rip Off"? There was a landlord who had allowed over 40 people to live in an HMO licensed for a maximum of 12. The property was in such a state of repair that the electricity company had shut the electricity supply off because the state of the wiring was so dangerous. This landlord sped off in his Porsche 911 as Jeremy Vine tried to ask him some questions about the property.

Pixie5740

delicious11 wrote: »

I am just confused as to why people are comparing the conditions of a lifetime council tenancy and the rights that it entails to that of a 12 month private tenancy.

Because you are making out like councils are the only terrible landlords who don't repair things. Private tenants can face the same issues but without the luxury of a secure tenancy.

AdrianC

delicious11 wrote: »

Not sure what you mean.

Simple. You said that many posters were jealous of the lifetime security of tenancy - then you told us how terrible councils were as landlords. Why would anybody be jealous of that?

I am just confused as to why people are comparing the conditions of a lifetime council tenancy and the rights that it entails to that of a 12 month private tenancy.

Because, for people who aren't able to afford to buy their property - them's the choices. And, if the OP takes another property out of the council's ownership, there's one less household of ponces and junkie scumbags who can't take up this apparently enviable (or is it?) lifetime tenancy.

marksoton

delicious11 wrote: »

In regards to OP, If Nan who has lived in property for nearly 60years and wants to keep it in the family by allowing her grandson to help her buy it, people really should stop making grand assumptions as to the OP's intentions. It is catty to say the least.

Facts (As stated by the OP)

His Nan is very Ill
The local area is full of ponces and scumbags
He doesn't require a mortgage

I don't think there are many grand assumptions as to where this is going...

delicious11

AdrianC wrote: »

Simple. You said that many posters were jealous of the lifetime security of tenancy - then you told us how terrible councils were as landlords. Why would anybody be jealous of that?



Because, for people who aren't able to afford to buy their property - them's the choices. And, if the OP takes another property out of the council's ownership, there's one less household of ponces and junkie scumbags who can't take up this apparently enviable (or is it?) lifetime tenancy.

Yes, People are jealous of those with lifetime tenancies who have the right to buy at a discount. In case you missed it, the right to buy discount is what many are jealous of.

Also bringing up the sub standards under which some Social Landlords operate was to show that not all council tenants had not been sitting on a bed of roses before deciding to purchase their properties. Many have been through hell dealing with the Council and their poor property maintenance policies before exercising their right to buy.

AdrianC

delicious11 wrote: »

Yes, People are jealous of those with lifetime tenancies who have the right to buy at a discount. In case you missed it, the right to buy discount is what many are jealous of.

Ah, so we ARE all in agreement that the OP's motivation is financial gain? Great. I knew we'd get there in the end.

delicious11

Pixie5740 wrote: »

Because you are making out like councils are the only terrible landlords who don't repair things. Private tenants can face the same issues but without the luxury of a secure tenancy.

That is because I keep hearing from private tenants how Council tenants have it easy. Just trying to set the record straight here. Further up above someone mentioned about the council responding to call outs in 24 hours?..:rotfl: If you haven't lived it then you won't know.

I also keep hearing about how Council housing should go to the needy when that is not the reason it was set up in the first place. Council housing was for the working man, not just vulnerable people or to those on full time benefits. The right to buy gave the working man a chance to own the property they had lived in for several years, taking the responsibility of maintenance away from the council who most times struggle with the amount of property in their portfolios.

As I said, people with who happened to be in the right place at the right time who accepted properties from the Council when many turned them down in the past, should not be vilified by Private Tenants who cannot get on the Council waiting list and who are not forced to pay extortionate rates set by Private Landlords.

delicious11

AdrianC wrote: »

Ah, so we ARE all in agreement that the OP's motivation is financial gain? Great. I knew we'd get there in the end.

From what I read, Nan wishes her Grandson to be on the property with her and does not want to give it back to council. After a 60 year lifetime tenancy, Nan has the right to keep the property in the family if she wants by exercising her right to buy. If Grandson is in a position to help facilitate that I don't see what the issue is.