learner driver failed to merge onto 2 lane dual carriageway

MacMickster

EssexExile wrote: »

Just do whatever makes life easier, slow down, speed up, pull out, whatever. It's a bit worrying that something so obvious gets onto a forum.

I completely agree. The amount of self-righteous nonsense which gets posted on these boards lately (motoring and cycling) is incredible.

happyc84

Thanks for the comments, looks 50:50 for choices

Sorry should have said, I moved over to the outside lane to avoid the learner driver.

If the learner was on their test would they have passed or failed with this method of merging onto a dual carriageway?

System

Sounds like you expect the car on the carriageway to take avoiding action rather than the vehicle on the slip road. Have priorities changed and nobody told me?

photome

happyc84 wrote: »

Hello, was minding my own business driving along dual carriageway, in the inside lane. A learner driver approached from an on-ramp. Failed to merge with my lane. My choices were either drop my speed or to pull over to the outside lane. Was surprised that they didn't match my speed and pull in behind me.

Should the learner ask for a refund, or should I book some new lessons if the rules have changed.

If you were looking ahead, anticipating,and the outside lane was empty, why wouldn't you move over, I do exactly that dozens of times a week irrespective of wether it is a learner or otherwise trying to join, just as I do if someone is trying to join from a layby.

It bugs me when trying to get out of a layby and the outside lane is empty that others don't do the same

MacMickster

happyc84 wrote: »

Thanks for the comments, looks 50:50 for choices

Sorry should have said, I moved over to the outside lane to avoid the learner driver.

If the learner was on their test would they have passed or failed with this method of merging onto a dual carriageway?

They would have failed.

I live near a test centre so most learners in the area practice around the test routes. If I decided to start a new thread on here each time I saw a learner do something which meant that they would fail a test then I would be the most prolific poster on this forum.

The same would apply with mistakes by qualified drivers.

Good driving is all about anticipating and allowing for mistakes made by other road users. I would much rather avoid collisions than be able to say indignantly after them that it wasn't my fault because I had right of way.

Hermione_Granger

arcon5 wrote: »

What a load of carp. Maybe moving over could have been ideal, but certainly doesn't mitigating the learners poor driving. And if they had a driving instructor alongside then his/her poor performance.

Op did nothing wrong.

Why do I get this mental picture of you in my head, lying on a hospital bed stating "but I did nothing wrong. I had right of way and even though I clearly saw that the other car was going to hit me, they should have stopped"

Roland_Sausage

enfield_freddy wrote: »

I would have moved to france , or Germany


flippin heck


2 things
1: car merging , move over and let it!

Not always possible, usually due to a BMW or Audi overtaking in the outside lane so preventing one from moving over.

Also in this area there's some ridiculously short slip roads where it's not possible to match the speed of the oncoming traffic.

enfield_freddy

why blame BMWs and Audi,s , do you like them or or did you hear some bad words as a child about them ?


why not say VW , you are biased /

ceredigion

Roland_Sausage wrote: »

Also in this area there's some ridiculously short slip roads where it's not possible to match the speed of the oncoming traffic.

Get a BMW or Audi then.

Aretnap

Hermione_Granger wrote: »

Why do I get this mental picture of you in my head, lying on a hospital bed stating "but I did nothing wrong. I had right of way and even though I clearly saw that the other car was going to hit me, they should have stopped"

Here lies the body
Of Michael Day
Who insisted on
His right of way