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Help! Ukpc have 'photographic evidence' which isn't real

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  • Parkie
    Parkie Posts: 28 Forumite
    Looks like UKPC have developed a template apology letter as it's exactly the same as mine https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5311749
    apart from the last sentence where there's an apology. :D
    Perhaps that's for the benefit of POPLA is my appeal didn't get that far?
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,694 Forumite
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    "Why for 6 years?"

    because scumpanies like this have been know to change there minds / pass it on to a debtcrawler / and a few other underhand ways of scaming money out of you .....

    you will never really know its over ...

    even the fat lady singing won't help .....

    until 6 years have passed .... at that point they can no longer pursue you through the courts ....

    and believe me ..... ( we see the posts on here) it can all come back after years of nothing .....

    any way well done .......:j

    and please keep pointing people here from the facebook page (if appropriate)

    Ralph:cool:
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    It looks as though the time-line for this scam has been pushed back to the end of last year:-
    http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/13771380.Second_motorist_slams__quot_disgusting_quot__parking_firm_after_photo_tampering_admission/

    Note UKPC's denial that the time-stamps could be altered!
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Interesting post ""stolen"" from pepipoo.com

    A PRIVATE parking company that admitted “a few of its employees” falsified photograph time stamps in order to dish out fines is being investigated by police.

    And now two motorists in Worcester - Steve James and Sarah Gashi – plan to take their complaints to Action Fraud, the UK’s national fraud centre.

    The centre says it has received a report that “a recordable fraud has occurred” and is probing UK Parking Control over the claims.

    The National Fraud Intelligence Bureau at the City of London Police is leading work to assess the allegations while the British Parking Association is also investigating the national parking firm.

    Mr James, 23, of St Peter’s, Worcester, believes the time stamp on a photograph used as evidence to fine him in Diglis last December was doctored and says he has CCTV evidence to prove he was working in Tesco at the time.

    His claims mirror those of Rushwick mum Sarah Gashi, who is adamant the times on photographs of her car in Diglis in February were tampered with in order to issue a penalty notice. She claims she was in Powick with her parents at the time her car was apparently photographed in Diglis.

    The duo have been inspired to take their cases to Action Fraud after seeing the photograph tampering scandal exposed in the media.

    UK Parking Control made a public admission earlier this month, which relates to cases in Lincoln and does not refer to Worcester car parks, that time stamps had been altered.

    The statement read: “We regret to confirm that a limited number of pictures of vehicles, at a small number of car parks, have had their time stamp altered by a few of our employees to make it appear as though the vehicles had over-stayed when this was not the case.

    “We have taken this issue extremely seriously and will refund all potentially affected parking charges for over-stays issued by these employees.”

    http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/137764...ons/?ref=twtrec
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    The "event" which keeps giving and giving.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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    What ever the outcome of all this you have to question what it is that makes falsifying records so tempting for employees!
    Of course we all know it is the incentive schemes and pressure put on them to bag as many victims as possible, but will anything be done to "mitigate" (where did I see that before) this happening in the future, I doubt it!
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    "Mitigate", an odd choice of words, do you mean "prevent". It is after all a criminal act.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    "Mitigate", an odd choice of words, do you mean "prevent". It is after all a criminal act.

    No just my poor attempt at sarcasm, using UKPC's terminology.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,373 Forumite
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    "Mitigate", an odd choice of words, do you mean "prevent". It is after all a criminal act.

    Actually, 'mitigate' isn't fisherjim's phrase - that's lifted from UKPC's press release.

    They want to offer 'mitigation', but expressly reject motorists using it. Hypocrisy at its pinnacle!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • yotmon
    yotmon Posts: 485 Forumite
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    I can see in the not too distant future a reporter from C4 or elsewhere, going undercover as a UKPC employee to get the 'low down' on working practices. Then we could see at what level the fraudulent scams originate - would love to see an in-depth training session being held for staff at UKPC (other scamming firms are available) to show how close they sail to the wind....

    As for the 'rogue' employees allegedly taking the law into their own hands by falsifying documents (pics), they should be arrested and interviewed to get their version of events. If they admit their wrong doing and depending on previous criminal convictions, they could be offered 'cautions'. Once issued, if in agreement, they can be used as a witness against their former employees (no longer classed as co-defendants), if evidence is there to suggest it was an in-house scam rather than an individual acting alone. Fraud/Conspiracy to commit fraud carry very heavy penalties.
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