Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Sapphire

Generali wrote: »

Stone me! Student in 'smoked pot' shocker.

In other news slightly tipsy couple allow friends to take drugs at a party in their home despite some vague misgivings.

Back to matters of substance rather than tittle tattle about substances. The whole Corbyn thing seems to be coming off the rails rather fast. I don't see how it is tenable for the shadow cabinet to be split on so many issues of substances and that Labour could go to the polls with two different policies on Scottish independence!

Yes, sounds as though it's a load of hot air about someone doing similar things to what many young people have done during their school/university years. So what? I think the country has more serious issues to worry about than a smear attempt like this.

Give me Cameron rather than that loon Corbyn any day.

Generali

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I was trying to steer things back on topic through wiping away my tears of laughter. I suspect David Cameron will be making the headlines for the next few weeks. Not Corbyn.

Labour will have to split. Or else depose Corbyn if the party won't get behind him. But that in turn would cause huge ructions with their grassroots. But Ashcroft's 'revelations' seem just as valid, as the endless headlines over someone not singing the National Anthem don't you think ?

The National Anthem thing was pretty silly although probably symptomatic of what a prat Mr Corbyn is with his junior common room view on life.

Who can vote for a Labour Party with two policies on just about everything? Either the two sides have to work out a way to pull together, and with what looks increasingly like a weak leader at the helm that seems unlikely, or the whole thing seems likely to collapse into chaos.

I guess that makes independence more likely for Scotland but it's a heck of a price to pay.

wotsthat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I was trying to steer things back on topic through wiping away my tears of laughter. I suspect David Cameron will be making the headlines for the next few weeks. Not Corbyn.

'Dynamite revelations' my !!!! - more slow news day and a front page ad for a book the Mail are pushing.

Did it make many headlines in Scotland when Sturgeon was forced to admit she took drugs once, maybe twice, can't remember where, possibly university, didn't like it, made her sick, etc. etc.

gadgetmind

Generali wrote: »

Oh and the Scottish branch of the Labour Party could go to the next election standing on a different set of policies regarding independence than the Labour Party in England and Wales!!!

Left wing parties breed by fission. "Aren't we the People's Front of Judea?"

posh*spice

Shakethedisease wrote: »

In all seriousness though... this isn't good for Cameron. The DM is serialising it as well. Corbyn can have a few days off I think.

Wasn't much of a day off. Corbyn must have discovered for the first time yesterday that his great great grand father ran a workhouse in Farnham. That's a very hard thing to hear.

Corbyn’s forebear presided over grim conditionsThe Labour leader’s forebear, James Sargent, was the master of Farnham workhouse, in Surrey, and presided over Dickensian condition before resigning after seducing an “inmate”.

He once accused an epileptic inmate recovering from a fit of being lazy, and ordered him to ladle out the cesspit.

The man suffered another fit and almost drowned after falling in the manure.

He also threatened the workhouse doctor with violence whenever he suggested reforms to improve the lot of those in the workhouse, records uncovered by historian Nick Barratt show.

The accusations were made in a “sensational” report in The Lancet in 1867 which described Mr Sargent, who had recently departed the workhouse having been its master for 14 years, as “despotic”.

Discovering that would be horrible for the best of us. Discovering that in such a public way, doubly horrible.

posh*spice

gadgetmind wrote: »

Left wing parties breed by fission. "Aren't we the People's Front of Judea?"

Indeed. Left wing politics always ends up in factional infighting and everyone calling the Leader a sell out.

Moby

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/21/david-cameron-piers-gaveston-society-what-we-know-oxford-secret

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
.....I was at Oxford at the same time as 'call me Dave' and had heard of the Piers Gaveston Society but I tended to frequent pubs on the Cowley Road for my kicks! Bizarre initiation ceremonies involving pig's heads didn't tend to 'float my boat'!
But Dave knows how to wear a suit and sing the national anthem.....so he can get away with anything of course. We are such a class ridden society!

Shakethedisease

Sapphire wrote: »

Yes, sounds as though it's a load of hot air about someone doing similar things to what many young people have done during their school/university years. So what? I think the country has more serious issues to worry about than a smear attempt like this.

Give me Cameron rather than that loon Corbyn any day.

The above is exactly what everyone else is laughing about. People trying to write off the 'pig initiation' to some weird group as something 'everyone does' in their uni years. Really ?

You're right there are far more serious issues to be dealt with. But that doesn't stop this being hilariously funny, and a big taste of their own medicine regarding the media when it comes to dishing out 'smear attempts'.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

The above is exactly what everyone else is laughing about. People trying to write off the 'pig initiation' to some weird group as something 'everyone does' in their uni years. Really ?

You're right there are far more serious issues to be dealt with. But that doesn't stop this being hilariously funny, and a big taste of their own medicine regarding the media when it comes to dishing out 'smear attempts'.

yes indeed

it is absolutely clear that a funny / vile or whatever revelation about a conservative is 100% justified:
the identical comment about an SNP politician would of course be unjustified and a typical media smear.

but that just typical day in the life of an acolyte.

michaels

Interesting that Corbyn smearing has only started in earnest after his election - you might almost conclude that certain sections of the press wanted him elected....but probably not because they also wanted to see a labour PM.