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Corbynomics: A Dystopia
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Do you really think he can deliver what he promises, if he was to be more realistic not promising to solve every bodies grievances by only taxing a few people I'd be more inclined to believe him.I think this is where many are wrong about Corbyn. Corbyn is not an opportunist politician. He really believes the things he says. Boris is an opportunist politician. He wrote two speeches for the Telegraph, one pro and one anti brexit. Calling Corbyn a 'communist' and reviving the unions wrecking the economy cliche is simplistic and losing it's potency as an argument because the younger generations only remember what we have now and they are not content. Besides the future doesn't necessarily have to be like the past.0 -
A think tank
Say that once more. A think tank
A think tank
A....think...tank
:rotfl:
Why should I or anyone believe a 'think tank'?
When was the last time a think tank solved any real problems.
Are they scientists working on new medicines
Are they engineers working on new machines
No they are just a group of people like you and me.
Instead of saying hey world I Moby have an idea and this is it....
They say we are a think tank and here is a report0 -
I think qualities that are beneficial to society but are available cheaply can result in low reward, low status......think of nurses, carers etc. In contrast footballers get rewarded the way they do because humans are often very shallow. We like the buzz of spectacle, excitement etc and we are prepared to pay £50 upwards a head for 90 mins worth:eek:
I suppose people push to the back of their minds that they've just shelled out a huge wedge at a match and give little thought that the person who actually has the huge responsibility for caring for say..... their dear old mum that they tell everyone they adore, is on 8 quid an hour. The same person will soon complain if the care is shoddy of course and will justify the disparity by thinking... them's the rules of the market place. Of course when things go wrong, or there is some form of neglect/abuse the significance of such generally under valued roles suddenly matters a great deal.
There is no need for the comparison of the nurse who isn't on £8 quid an hour
Footballers and other monopolistic roles paid above £1m annually should be taxed more for their monopoly status. Maybe as much as 80%
By monopoly roles I mean jobs and positions which would exist irrespective of the person.
We would have football even if the top 100 paid footballers had never existed we would have music even if the top 100 earning singers had never existed etc those roles are a type of monopoly.
Problem is there may not be a workable and effective way to tax these monopoly positions and these people may be able to move country and sell their goods from abroad (eg actors/singers) and there is no point shooting ourselves in the foot if pushing their taxes from 45% to 80% results in us getting even less.0 -
I think this is where many are wrong about Corbyn. Corbyn is not an opportunist politician. He really believes the things he says. Boris is an opportunist politician. He wrote two speeches for the Telegraph, one pro and one anti brexit. Calling Corbyn a 'communist' and reviving the unions wrecking the economy cliche is simplistic and losing it's potency as an argument because the younger generations only remember what we have now and they are not content. Besides the future doesn't necessarily have to be like the past.
I think you can certainly say that about his stance on issues before he was leader and indeed in the early days of his leadership.
The last Labour manifesto though wasn't particularly true to his long term views at all, lots of bungs for the middle class and actually relatively little help for the poor, no plan to reverse austerity for those on benefits and indeed some of the further Tory cuts weren't even projected to be reversed.
It's the problem I have with Corbyn and as a result Labour now generally, I didn't believe the last manifesto (does anyone honestly think Corbyn would bring in further austerity for those on low incomes or not working).
So I didn't believe the tax rises would stop at what was included in the manifesto, I actually do believe we need more public spending in certain areas of the economy, but I don't trust Corbyn and McDonnell to keep to the commitments they made and unfortunately I know its people like myself who will end up paying for the likely ever increasing spending commitments they make.0 -
A think tank
Say that once more. A think tank
A think tank
A....think...tank
:rotfl:
Why should I or anyone believe a 'think tank'?
When was the last time a think tank solved any real problems.
Are they scientists working on new medicines
Are they engineers working on new machines
No they are just a group of people like you and me.
Instead of saying hey world I Moby have an idea and this is it....
They say we are a think tank and here is a report
How do they get the think out of the tank? Does it come down a hose or does it float out on a cloud of hot air?0 -
Eric_the_half_a_bee wrote: »I beg your pardon?
Spent a lifetime campaigning against the EU and then supported Remain?
Indicated at the GE he would write off student debts and then backtracked weeks later?
The amount of Labour supports I knew that thought he was anti EU was about 50/50 against those who thought he would remain, it suited him for them all to believe their own little fantasy, he knew what he was doing. Same goes for the student debt, it all came out just after the election. I wonder if he could honestly of sat at the Labour conference saying things like "we are now the mainstream", had these and other revelations been ironed out before hand.
To anyone seriously saying the Labour party a unified force, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU5UfptCer8 Paul Mason appears quite sinister.0 -
Trot out the Venezuela meme......followed by Diane Abbott, not forgetting terrorist sympathiser....and how the unions ruined the country......then repeat ad nauseum. Yes we know the script.
You mean keep pointing out Labour's flaws, and how Comrade Corbyn seems determined to repeat an experiment that's always resulted in disaster? Yes, we'll keep doing that because we care about this country. Sorry about that.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
If you are born smart and to good parents you will do well. If you are born dim you won't do well. If you are born to parents who don't care you won't so well.
Yes, the old nature versus nurture, but the brain is like a muscle. Work it hard and it becomes strong and flexible. Take the easy option at every turn, feed it a diet of junk media, don't engage with abstractions and complexity, and it will wither on the vine.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »Yes, the old nature versus nurture, but the brain is like a muscle. Work it hard and it becomes strong and flexible. Take the easy option at every turn, feed it a diet of junk media, don't engage with abstractions and complexity, and it will wither on the vine.
do not underestimate how much your brain (and therefore your intelligence, personality, empathy and so much more) is influenced by both genetics and early childhood upbringing.
i am currently going through therapy and it has become a lot clearer how much both genetics and upbringing affects your life. its not impossible to change but it is tough and requires a lot of work and persistence. this is why you have people with different sorts of problems, most people dont try (dont realise there is a problem in the first place with their thinking) or give up too easily.
people like those on this forum tend to blame the economy, society etc on people problems. im not saying thats not true, but it certainly is over emphasized when really its the genetics and upbringing that also has had an influence and in my view is the biggest reason.
im not sure what is more of a factor, genetics or upbringing. i think in my case its genetics (which in itself led to some negative experiences in my early childhood) and i think it is genetics that is the main factor but if someone has good genetics and had something awful happen to them (eg abuse) then upbringing could be a stronger factor.0 -
do not underestimate
How much people read into your inability to start a sentence with a capital letter. It may seem petty, but seriously ...
As for the rest, nurture is way more important than nature IMO, but people can (and have, and always will) overcome both if they have the will, and given the will they can make the way.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0
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