Corbynomics: A Dystopia

ukcarper

Cakeguts wrote: »

It was a new 2 bed semi in a town north of Manchester. I think if I remember correctly I borrowed 3 times my annual income and the interest rate was around 11%. It certainly didn't go any lower than 11%.

Things have always been easier away from the south east my house was a 3 bed terrace we borrowed 3.25x our joint income which was 4.75x my income. Interest rate was 8% but only for the first year or so.

Cakeguts

ukcarper wrote: »

Things have always been easier away from the south east my house was a 3 bed terrace we borrowed 3.25x our joint income which was 4.75x my income. Interest rate was 8% but only for the first year or so.

This is why I can never understand why people take jobs in the South East and then complain that they can't afford to buy or rent a property. Surely you get a job where you can afford to live not where you can't? If everyone worked on this basis we would have lots of people complaining that they couldn't buy a house in the most expensive areas of any area in the country. Most people don't try to buy houses in places they can't afford.

ukcarper

Cakeguts wrote: »

This is why I can never understand why people take jobs in the South East and then complain that they can't afford to buy or rent a property. Surely you get a job where you can afford to live not where you can't? If everyone worked on this basis we would have lots of people complaining that they couldn't buy a house in the most expensive areas of any area in the country. Most people don't try to buy houses in places they can't afford.

Most people just buy fairly near to where they live. It doesn't pay to move to the south east especially near London if you are not going to earn considerably more.

Arklight

Cakeguts wrote: »

This is why I can never understand why people take jobs in the South East and then complain that they can't afford to buy or rent a property. Surely you get a job where you can afford to live not where you can't? If everyone worked on this basis we would have lots of people complaining that they couldn't buy a house in the most expensive areas of any area in the country. Most people don't try to buy houses in places they can't afford.

Good work. You've just justified the existence of immigrants. Don't forget to tell the Daily Mail comments section.

Cakeguts

Arklight wrote: »

Good work. You've just justified the existence of immigrants. Don't forget to tell the Daily Mail comments section.

It isn't just immigrants who take jobs in London and then complain that they can't afford the rents. There is nothing to stop anyone from moving to somewhere and getting a job where they can afford the rents.

When I was working in Oldham I would have preferred to live in Delph but I couldn't afford to live there. I didn't complain that there were not enough houses being built in Delph so that I could afford one I bought a house where I could afford to live.

Moby

GreatApe wrote: »

There hasn't been a communist system that I aware of that has resulted in anything other than pain and suffering if you know of an example I will look onto it.

Socialism in capatilist nations seem to work from around 30%-50% of the economy government funded seems to be sustainable. But its not really fair to say the government is actually that big for instance the government gives over £100 billion in pensions but the pensioners buy mostly private goods and services from it. The UK government while about 45% of the economy is closer to <20% of the workforce



No there isn't equality of opportunity there can't be we start from different places. A person born blind to an alcoholic mother isn't going to have the opertinity of your kids. Someone born dim probably won't be able to do too well. Someone born with perfect heath and a good mind if abused by its parents they probably won't turn out too well.

But there is more opertinity given the same circumstances in the UK than most the worlds nations. You can live a good life on the UK so long as you are reasonably functional.

Despite your negative views of me I would be very pro the UK and other rich nations putting in place the infrastructure for poor nations to develop faster. Build out roads fail ports power stations etc in poor countries. I'm not sure what our £10 billion annually goes on but that could lift millions out of poverty if spent on infrastructure.



As a rule I would say ignore most statistics because as a ruel very few people are capable of understanding statistics properly.

Regarding inequality iam happy to hear your proposals what van be done and what the costs are. Of the costs are worthwhile then sure let's do it but if it isn't worthwhile we will have to skip it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Citadel_(novel)
Highly recommend this novel. I think it's being serialised on R4 next week as well.

Cakeguts

Moby wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Citadel_(novel)
Highly recommend this novel. I think it's being serialised on R4 next week as well.

I am glad that you think that everyone can be equal because it is really very simple in that case. All you need to do is to train the whole country as footballers and as anyone can do anything that would mean that they could all earn the millions that top professional footballers earn.

LHW99

All you need to do is to train the whole country as footballers

I'm never quite sure why you can have elite training for footballers, athletics, tennis and what have you for those youngsters who have gifts in that line, and arrange for considerable sums of money to be available to provide it for that small minority, whereas it is unacceptable to provide a similar level of "elite training" for those who have two left feet, but the ability to work with abstract concepts, abstruse mathematics or cyberspace tecknology. They seem to have to put up with trying to get through the normal education system, which isn't widely geared up to cope with and encourage those kind of skills.

buglawton

Cakeguts wrote: »

This is why I can never understand why people take jobs in the South East and then complain that they can't afford to buy or rent a property. Surely you get a job where you can afford to live not where you can't? If everyone worked on this basis we would have lots of people complaining that they couldn't buy a house in the most expensive areas of any area in the country. Most people don't try to buy houses in places they can't afford.

Some people do behave logically, I believe Boston in Lincs is the most migrated-to town in the UK.

Filo25

LHW99 wrote: »

I'm never quite sure why you can have elite training for footballers, athletics, tennis and what have you for those youngsters who have gifts in that line, and arrange for considerable sums of money to be available to provide it for that small minority, whereas it is unacceptable to provide a similar level of "elite training" for those who have two left feet, but the ability to work with abstract concepts, abstruse mathematics or cyberspace tecknology. They seem to have to put up with trying to get through the normal education system, which isn't widely geared up to cope with and encourage those kind of skills.

The much better contractual rights for clubs over footballers might have something to do with it, I'm sure if other firms could effectively control your employment rights with no easy way for you to leave without them receiving a lot of compensation they would probably desperately try to hoover up talent as early as possible as well.