Corbynomics: A Dystopia

Tromking

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Pragmatic is not a word I would use. McDonnell is on the public record. Words such as these say a lot about the man. So much so they will alienate rather than bring people together.

"It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA." He later said that the "deaths of innocent civilians in IRA attacks is a real tragedy, but it was as a result of British occupation in Ireland. Because of the bravery of the IRA and people like Bobby Sands we now have a peace process.

Wonder what his views on ISIS are? As they do pose a huge threat to the UK. Only takes one bomb.............

Whose the treacherous politician here?
Was it McDonnell who had a political view on Ulster/Ireland or the likes of Major or Blair who bargained with terrorists and gave them political power?
If we were still at war with the IRA you'd have a point. McDonnell's muttering's are as nothing compared with the real actions of other politicians.

ruggedtoast

cepheus wrote: »

Latest ICM Guardian poll sees LAB within 6 points of CON
Con 38%
Lab 32%
LD 8%
UKIP 13%
Grn 3%
SNP 5%
PC 1%
Oth 1%

I would like to be a fly on the wall when Cameron sees that.

Thrugelmir

Tromking wrote: »

If we were still at war with the IRA you'd have a point. McDonnell's muttering's are as nothing compared with the real actions of other politicians.

Is the unification of Ireland a resolved issue? Is Belfast a unified City?

CLAPTON

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Can you define what you mean by "active support"?

things like inviting IRA leaders to parliament a couple of weeks they killed people at a Brighton hotel
by choosing not to condemn IRA bombings and killings

antrobus

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I would like to be a fly on the wall when Cameron sees that.

Why?

The latest ICM/Guardian poll shows a slight drop in the Conservative (38%) share of the vote, with newly elected Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn enjoying an immediate honeymoon boost of 1-point (32%), which of course, is most likely to be a function of normal sampling variation.

http://www.icmunlimited.com/media-centre/media-center/icm-guardian-poll

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I would like to be a fly on the wall when Cameron sees that.

Suspect there's more important matters on the agenda. With no elections on the horizon. Counts for little.

Suspect the plan will simply to be to let Corbyn have as much rope as he wants................................

gadgetmind

antrobus wrote: »

The rank and file have always (as a general rule) stood well to the left of where the PLP is to be found.

It's called "group polarisation".

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Going-Extremes-Minds-Unite-Divide/dp/0199754128

"evidence that shows that when like-minded people gather in groups, they tend to become more extreme in their views than they were before"

Labour risk flying to the left at a *very* rate of knots as they all desperately try to fit in while eating their own dog food.

gadgetmind

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA.

The lack of peace was caused by the IRA and the peace we have now is because they've (mostly) stopped killing people. So, we're supposed to thank them for stopping killing people and turn a blind eye to them choosing to do it in the first place?

Thrugelmir

gadgetmind wrote: »

Labour risk flying to the left at a *very* rate of knots as they all desperately try to fit in while eating their own dog food.

Blair made the Labour party appeal to Middle England. There'll be people jumping ship.

mystic_trev

cepheus wrote: »

Latest ICM Guardian poll sees LAB within 6 points of CON
Con 38%
Lab 32%
LD 8%
UKIP 13%
Grn 3%
SNP 5%
PC 1%
Oth 1%

Fairly pointless, excuse the pun. What were the Polls before the last Election, and who ended up with a majority?