Corbynomics: A Dystopia

gadgetmind

I think it's an insult to parasites.

mrginge

westernpromise wrote: »

You can only win in the centre...

The centre is just the place that most people's views congregate around. It's true to say that you win from the centre, but the centre in one country is not the same as the centre in another.

The SNP won the Scottish elections from the Scottish centre, the Tories won in 2015 from the UK centre.

If you introduce a million disaffected, impoverished left-leaning students etc into the electoral mix who never bothered voting before, then the centre just moves position to be skewed to the left.

This is the fundamental principle of operation Jezza in action.

The problem with introducing these type of people into the mix is that they're not in it for the long haul and will disappear as soon as the promise-the-earth rhetoric fails to deliver.

gadgetmind

mrginge wrote: »

will disappear as soon as the promise-the-earth rhetoric fails to deliver.

People seem to need this lesson every few decades. Shame.

westernpromise

mrginge wrote: »

If you introduce a million disaffected, impoverished left-leaning students etc into the electoral mix who never bothered voting before, then the centre just moves position to be skewed to the left.

There is no evidence any such demographic exists, or that it it will vote, never mind voting Labour, or that it is suitably distributed in a way that will win rather than lose seats for Labour.

mrginge

westernpromise wrote: »

There is no evidence any such demographic exists, or that it it will vote, never mind voting Labour, or that it is suitably distributed in a way that will win rather than lose seats for Labour.

Tell that to chairman Jezza.

Thrugelmir

westernpromise wrote: »

There is no evidence any such demographic exists, or that it it will vote, never mind voting Labour, or that it is suitably distributed in a way that will win rather than lose seats for Labour.

Youth is revolutionary. With age comes moderation.

westernpromise

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Youth is revolutionary. With age comes moderation.

Youth is also bone f~cking idle when it comes to turning out and voting. They think it's cool to act all d!gag!.

ruggedtoast

westernpromise wrote: »

Youth is also bone f~cking idle when it comes to turning out and voting. They think it's cool to act all d!gag!.

Oh don't worry they'll be voting next time.

Not how you want though.

mwpt

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh don't worry they'll be voting next time.

Not how you want though.

Well, Mr. W. Promise was a youth once. So presumably he was also bone-f-idle then. Maybe it is just the new youth, the ones the boomers raised, to be bone-f-idle. It's hard to tell.

But in any case, what I suspect will happen is that the idealists (what are their ideals though?) who are voting for Corbyn now, will get nowhere with that, will get on with their lives, get families, earn some more money, pay their taxes and eventually realise, hey, life seems to work ok under the centre ground, and then they won't be voting Corbyn anymore.

westernpromise

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh don't worry they'll be voting next time.

Not how you want though.

Oh no they won't.

Non-voters break out much the same as voters. There is no huge mass of people wanting to vote Labour among them. The reasons why people don't vote can be complex but most often it's because they live in a safe seat in which their vote is unlikely to make a lot of difference whether they cast it or not.

Envious, ranting psychoes will probably get a few more hard-left votes out in safe Labour seats, but they'll alienate far more everywhere else, especially when the electorate are reminded by the Tories of what Labour really thinks of them. You're going to lose 20-odd seats anyway as Labour's massive multi-decade gerrymander is finally corrected, and then Yeremiy's and your own antics will do the rest. You'll lose another 50 seats in 2020 because you think the way to win over moderate centrists like myself to Labour is to screech hatred and anti-Semitism at them while felching up to terrorists. And you are in complete dim denial of what awaits you; good.