Corbynomics: A Dystopia

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh don't worry they'll be voting next time.

Not how you want though.

But will they vote in enough numbers to make up for those who did vote Labour that won't now I think not. Also about a third of people in the 18-29 age group voted Tory what makes you think if younger voters turn out that will change significantly.

westernpromise

ukcarper wrote: »

what makes you think.

Toastie doesn't think. He hates. That's enough.

ukcarper

westernpromise wrote: »

Toastie doesn't think. He hates. That's enough.

Sorry but that sounds a bit like pot calling kettle black to me. You both seem to hate just different people.

TrickyTree83

ukcarper wrote: »

Sorry but that sounds a bit like pot calling kettle black to me. You both seem to hate just different people.

According to RuggedToast if you vote Conservative you hate the poor. No matter what charities you donate to, or whether you volunteer or raise money. Apparently ONLY the state can deliver for those in need.

Laughable view of the world.

[Deleted User]

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

According to RuggedToast if you vote Conservative you hate the poor. No matter what charities you donate to, or whether you volunteer or raise money. Apparently ONLY the state can deliver for those in need.

Laughable view of the world.

True enough. Rugged is having a kick at charitable Conservative pensioners on the other Corbyn thread. Cute!

His total contempt for those holding ANY differing view is verging on the single mindedness usually found in the dangerously extreme followers of some religions.

Hardly an attitude likely to prove attractive to enough folk to allow the Dear Leader to form a government which, all things considered, is probably just as well.

WR

ukcarper

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

According to RuggedToast if you vote Conservative you hate the poor. No matter what charities you donate to, or whether you volunteer or raise money. Apparently ONLY the state can deliver for those in need.

Laughable view of the world.

That's true but westernpromise is just the opposite side of the same coin and seems to hate any body who doesn't support his right wing ideals.

Jason74

westernpromise wrote: »

Oh no they won't.

Non-voters break out much the same as voters. There is no huge mass of people wanting to vote Labour among them. The reasons why people don't vote can be complex but most often it's because they live in a safe seat in which their vote is unlikely to make a lot of difference whether they cast it or not.

Envious, ranting psychoes will probably get a few more hard-left votes out in safe Labour seats, but they'll alienate far more everywhere else, especially when the electorate are reminded by the Tories of what Labour really thinks of them. You're going to lose 20-odd seats anyway as Labour's massive multi-decade gerrymander is finally corrected, and then Yeremiy's and your own antics will do the rest. You'll lose another 50 seats in 2020 because you think the way to win over moderate centrists like myself to Labour is to screech hatred and anti-Semitism at them while felching up to terrorists. And you are in complete dim denial of what awaits you; good.

I actually agree with most of this post, but imho you are certainly not a "moderate centrist" . Based on your posts, you appear to be towards to right of the Tory party, which places you almost as far away from the centre as the anything but moderate Mr Corbyn

westernpromise

Jason74 wrote: »

I actually agree with most of this post, but imho you are certainly not a "moderate centrist" . Based on your posts, you appear to be towards to right of the Tory party, which places you almost as far away from the centre as the anything but moderate Mr Corbyn

Give me some examples.

cells

mwpt wrote: »

But in any case, what I suspect will happen is that the idealists (what are their ideals though?) who are voting for Corbyn now, will get nowhere with that, will get on with their lives, get families, earn some more money, pay their taxes and eventually realise, hey, life seems to work ok under the centre ground, and then they won't be voting Corbyn anymore.

£8.8 trillion in wealth in the UK is held mostly by the over 35s.
In 35 years the that older generation dies and the young who are now the old own this £8.8 trillion. They stop voting for more taxes on this £8.8 trillion now that they hold onto it

mrginge

cells wrote: »

£8.8 trillion in wealth in the UK is held mostly by the over 35s.
In 35 years the that older generation dies and the young who are now the old own this £8.8 trillion. They stop voting for more taxes on this £8.8 trillion now that they hold onto it

That's all very well unless the old people spend 4 trillion of it before they die and those who inherit what's left have run up 4 trillion in debt.