Corbynomics: A Dystopia

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John McDonnell caught in second Thatcher assassination row as old footage shows him joking idea has ‘massive support’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/25/john-mcdonnell-caught-in-second-thatcher-assassination-row-as-ol/

https://youtu.be/zW7AgGnSRMg

McDonnell is scum but so are the audience. I guess they all cheered when they heard about the IRA's Brighton hotel Bombing. Isn't it hilarious that Thatcher narrowly escaped death and five people were killed (including a sitting Conservative MP) and 31 were injured.

CLAPTON

TheNickster wrote: »

I have just seen PM Theresa May shaking hands with Martin McGuiness on the news. Perhaps you think she is scum as well.

Time you moved on.

I am pretty sure that if PM Theresa May was asked if she considered the bombing of Warringon High St on a busy Saturday afternoon and the two Birmingham pubs, as acts of murder, she would agree. I'm sure she would agree that nothing justified these deaths.

I'm pretty sure Corbyn would refuse to answer or justify them in term of British imperialism.

gadgetmind

TheNickster wrote: »

I have just seen PM Theresa May shaking hands with Martin McGuiness on the news.

Sometimes in politics you have to hold your nose and do what's required.

What isn't required is completely unsolicited praise for terrorists that states that terrorism and mass murder have a legitimate role in politics.

pop_gun

CLAPTON wrote: »

I am pretty sure that if PM Theresa May was asked if she considered the bombing of Warringon High St on a busy Saturday afternoon and the two Birmingham pubs, as acts of murder, she would agree. I'm sure she would agree that nothing justified these deaths.

I'm pretty sure Corbyn would refuse to answer or justify them in term of British imperialism.

What if the PM were asked about the 1m+ deaths in Iraq due to the American invasion?

I bet she'd tap dance, around that one nicely.

CLAPTON

pop_gun wrote: »

What if the PM were asked about the 1m+ deaths in Iraq due to the American invasion?

I bet she'd tap dance, around that one nicely.

I'm not sure of your point.

What have the deaths in Irag have to do with whether or not the deaths in Warrington and Birmingham were murders by the IRA?

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All this who said what to whom, when, about such and such is all very well.

However if the latest opinion polls are to believed, and I accept that it's a big "if", if there was a general election tomorrow a Labour Party led by Corbyn would seemingly finish so far behind the Conservatives they'd need a telescope to see the new PM.

With the greatest of respect to the adoring supporters of Corbyn that situation CANNOT be entirely unrelated to the performance of their Dear Leader.

It's almost as if the brothers and sisters looked across the pond not at Bernie Sanders but at Sarah Palin and thought "well, we haven't tried a total eejit yet, this might work......"

WR

gadgetmind

Wild_Rover wrote: »

With the greatest of respect to the adoring supporters of Corbyn that situation CANNOT be entirely unrelated to the performance of their Dear Leader.

His performance has been pretty bad but I think it's more that the vast majority of people find his politics deeply unpalatable.

ukcarper

Arklight wrote: »

Can you tell me what about Corbynism you find far left?

The vast majority if Corbynites are not radical lefties. Its just that the political dialogue of the country has shifted so far to the right that anyone who suggests we insist employers pay a living wage, rich people pay more than 0.5% tax, and we renationalise our awful railways, seems to now be a radical Marxist.

Depends what you call far left but what ever you call them people won't vote for unfunded policies, I don't consider renationalising companies, dictating to private companies what dividends they can pay centre left policies. As for rich people paying 0.5% tax it's a very small number of the very rich and all parties are trying to close loop holes.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

Depends what you call far left but what ever you call them people won't vote for unfunded policies, I don't consider renationalising companies, dictating to private companies what dividends they can pay centre left policies. As for rich people paying 0.5% tax it's a very small number of the very rich and all parties are trying to close loop holes.

Ha! You probably aren't very keen on renationalising companies, because your boomer generation has done very nicely thank you - from all the windfalls you got from the British state run companies being sold off to the private sector.

Absurdly, some of these companies are now all or partly owned by foreign state owned corporation.

A large and growing number of people reject the greedy money obsessed neoliberal doctrine. Especially, oddly enough, the ones who havent benefited from it,

TheNickster

CLAPTON wrote: »

I am pretty sure that if PM Theresa May was asked if she considered the bombing of Warringon High St on a busy Saturday afternoon and the two Birmingham pubs, as acts of murder, she would agree. I'm sure she would agree that nothing justified these deaths.

I'm pretty sure Corbyn would refuse to answer or justify them in term of British imperialism.

It is probably an unanswerable question but he might ask the if 'Bloody Sunday' had never happened would the IRA have escalated their 'terrorism' to England?

In the end the peace process would never have happened if the UK government had not eventually engaged in a dialogue with the IRA.

As Ronald Reagon once said:

"one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter".

As I said - time to move on.