Corbynomics: A Dystopia

setmefree2

Jeremy Corbyn has suffered a steep fall in public approval during a month dominated by in-fighting over the Syria war vote, an exclusive poll reveals today.
Ipsos MORI found that net satisfaction with the Labour leader’s performance had plunged 14 points and, for the first time, half the public are unhappy with the way he is doing his job.

It took more than a year for Ed Miliband to reach the point where 50 per cent of voters were dissatisfied with him, compared with three months for Mr Corbyn.

Congratulations Jeremy.:T:T:T

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/support-for-jeremy-corbyn-slumps-after-he-opposes-airstrikes-a3139486.html

setmefree2

Lord Mandelson said that “the real members of the Labour party” were leaving. Party sources denied a claim made by his supporters that 30,000 members had quit since Mr Corbyn took over.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/support-for-jeremy-corbyn-slumps-after-he-opposes-airstrikes-a3139486.html

Well tell us what the number is. Is it higher?

Generali

setmefree2 wrote: »

Congratulations Jeremy.:T:T:T

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/support-for-jeremy-corbyn-slumps-after-he-opposes-airstrikes-a3139486.html

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9572

Opinium have a new poll in today’s Observer – topline figures are CON 38%, LAB 30%, LDEM 5%, UKIP 16%, GRN 5%. Tabs are!here. The rest of the poll largely concentrated on leadership questions. Cameron’s approval rating stands at minus 6, Corbyn at minus 25, Farage minus 18, Farron minus 22 (though over half of respondents said don’t know on Farron). Net favourable vs unfavourable ratings were similar to job approval – Cameron -5, Corbyn -28, Farage -21, Farron -19.

It's hard to see what the Tories can do to lose the next election. UC was a farce, the NHS is bust and they are hopelessly divided over Europe yet all Labour can carry are their core vote. At this rate, Labour are going to be obliterated at the next election.

setmefree2

Polly Toynbee gives up hope.

Labour people are optimists, but this time I see no hope
Polly Toynbee I have tried to believe Jeremy Corbyn can win the 2020 election, but more and more it feels like believing in Father Christmas

Before considering Jeremy Corbyn, any Labour leader would have faced this electoral abyss: Scotland has gone and 2018 boundary changes will abolish a host of Labour seats. In the 94 English seats Labour must win, four out of five new votes need to come from Tory voters.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/22/labour-people-optimists-see-no-hope-jeremy-corbyn

setmefree2

‘This is an existential moment in Labour’s history. It may not survive. And it may never win again’

Peter Hyman

The former chief speechwriter and strategist for Tony Blair offers a devastating critique of how the demise of New Labour and the successive failures of Brown and Miliband have left Labour in a parlous state. It is now home to two parties – one made up of Corbyn supporters and the other a centre-left party. They can’t coexist. One or other will have to find a home outside Labour

Let’s be clear – there is a perfectly valid and viable political party that is left wing, union based, led by someone such as Corbyn and appealing to a mix of metropolitan elites, students and some trade unionists. With a charismatic leader and clever politics (two things currently missing), and relying on tribal Labour loyalty that remains in parts of the country, this approach could gain the support of 15% to 20% of the public and possibly, with the infrastructure, money and backing of the big trade unions, up to 25% to 28% of the vote. Let’s not forget Michael Foot’s Labour party got 27.6% of the vote in 1983. But this is a party that will never be in power. There is some support in the country for pacifism, republicanism and anti-capitalism but there isn’t enough to win an election. Labour’s role has become, like that of Ukip, to put certain issues higher up the agenda. Labour is currently, and for the foreseeable future, the Ukip of the left.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/20/labour-party-directionless-political-future

Generali

setmefree2 wrote: »

Polly Toynbee gives up hope.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/22/labour-people-optimists-see-no-hope-jeremy-corbyn

I have tried several times to craft a good reply to this. It all boils down to:

Labour are screwed. They don't have any talent left and they are led by an idiot, not a figurative idiot but someone that is genuinely stupid.

I am starting to think that all that remains is who replaces them as HMLO. Please let it not be UKIP.

setmefree2

Cosmic justice for Labour’s embattled moderates

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f4cf301c-a7ce-11e5-9700-2b669a5aeb83.html#axzz3v2Tm4fSJ

setmefree2

Are Corbyn's rich kid revolutionaries the REAL posh boys of politics? Labour moderate SIMON DANCZUK savages his party's new hard-left elite

Just look at the key personnel. Corbyn himself has never really had a job outside of politics, and he grew up in a seven-bedroom manor house on the Duke of Sutherland’s estate.
His closest aide, the Marxist millionaire Seumas Milne, was privately educated at Winchester College along with Tory politicians such as John Whittingdale.
The main spokesman of Corbyn’s Momentum campaigning group, James Schneider, was also privately educated and grew up in a £7 million mansion in trendy Primrose Hill, North London.
This hardly sounds like a people’s army in tune the concerns of horny-handed workers. Corbyn’s main cheerleader in the media, Diane Abbott, is another one who lectures about inequality but she sent her son to a £10,000-a-year private school.
As long as Labour attack Tory ‘posh boys’ from such a privileged position, hoping that no one will notice, then the stench of hypocrisy will only get worse.
According to a new book, The British General Election Of 2015, by respected political academics Philip Cowley and Dennis Kavanagh, the Conservative backbenches are becoming less privileged while Labour’s are becoming more so. Hard to believe, but true.
The authors point out that the current number of Old Etonian Tory MPs is 19, less than six per cent, compared to a staggering one in four when Harold Macmillan was Prime Minister in 1959.
Similarly, there are now 165 privately educated Conservative MPs against 164 from state schools, with one educated at home. And more than half of the newly elected Conservative MPs come from state schools. The posh boys and girls on the Tory side will soon be in a minority for the first time in history.
Meanwhile, Corbyn’s Labour is stupidly going in the opposite direction. The proportion of Labour MPs either with private school or Oxbridge backgrounds who won seats in May is slightly up on 2010 in both categories, the book says.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3367482/Are-Corbyn-s-rich-kid-revolutionaries-REAL-posh-boys-politics-Labour-moderate-SIMON-DANCZUK-savages-party-s-new-hard-left-elite.html#ixzz3v2iZcAFS
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Moby

In the interests of balance .............we live in volatile times and nothing is certain....I mean look at what has just happened in Spain! Things can change quickly and people who are calling out the result of the 2020 election at this point are being a tad hasty imo.

Generali

Moby wrote: »

In the interests of balance .............we live in volatile times and nothing is certain....I mean look at what has just happened in Spain! Things can change quickly and people who are calling out the result of the 2020 election at this point are being a tad hasty imo.

Fair point but if the current cluster whatsit isn't enough to bring voters round to Mr C then it's hard to see what will.

Let's face it, if you want to vote against the Establishment you'd be better off with UKIP than the Labour toffs.