PCN Advice - Crawley, West Sussex

Eagles1905

Hi All,

I am after some advice regarding a PCN dispute I am currently involved in. Long story short I have received x 2 parking tickets for parking in my allocated bay (residential block of flats)

As it transpires my landlord/letting agent were not informed that a new management company had taken over the car park – therefore I continued to display my old permit and received the tickets for not displaying a valid permit.

Two letters of complaint to PCN and various correspondence with my letting agent later I am still being chased to pay a combined fine of nearly £165.00! I am not at fault here and am becoming increasingly anxious at the thought of balifs turning up to collect what they believe I owe!

I believe it is down to my land lord or agent to settle the fee and pursue the car park management firm for a rebate.

Any thoughts you can offer are appreciated!

Cheers,

The_Deep

No bailiffs will call, you owe the PPC nothing and you should complain strenuously to your landlord that this is an infringement of your right s to quiet enjoyment of your property, possibly a criminal offence under the Landlord and Tenants Acts. This may amuse you


http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**

Eagles1905

Many thanks for the quick reply, the link is interesting indeed as my tickets were both issued at unsociable hours (first one was 05:30am on a week day and the second was at 05:55am on a Saturday!)

I'll keep plugging away!

Umkomaas

It's important to tell us who the private parking company is - full name as well their acronym please. We can give better targeted advice once we know who we/you are dealing with.

Half_way

why are you displaying and faffing around with a permit to park?
what does toy lease/rental agreement say about permits and/or spaces? something? nothing?

Eagles1905

Thanks guys,

The company is UK Car Park Management - they have a webite called "paymyticket" apologies, I lack the rights to post the link.

I'll review the tenancy agreement tonight but I am sure there is something in there regarding displaying a permit ( I doubt the car park management firm is referenced but I'll be sure to check)

Eagles1905

Absolutely nothing mentioned in my tenancy agreement re parking or the displaying permits!

DandelionPatrol

Eagles1905 wrote: »

Absolutely nothing mentioned in my tenancy agreement re parking or the displaying permits!

So how do you know you have rights to park there?

If the parking space is 'demised' [technical term] to you under your tenancy, your rights to park there are absolute and you can park there with no permit and moreover have the parking company done for harassment if they don't leave you alone. You do not need appeals or any kind of process and most of the newbies stickies are not relevant to your situation - the link from The Deep in post 2 above is entirely relevant.

If the parking space is only given to you less formally - eg verbally, you are left fighting as any other person and the stickies apply

Eagles1905

Hi Dandelion Patrol, you raise a valid point. As such I have challenged my land lord and am currently awaiting a reply, funnily enough when I moved into the flat the 'help' pack they issued included a number for parking tickets and disputes - turns out this is simply the local lettings office and apparently they're unable to intervene on a tenants behalf.

On the plus side both parties (land lord/letting agent) seem to be trying to resolve this, and my mind has been put at ease re bailiffs and associated nonsense. I've certainly picked up a lot of useful advice from the forums so far, so thank you.

I shall keep you posted!

Half_way

One important question. as hinted above does your tenancy agreement say anything about parking, or having the use of a parking space?
If not then how do you know you can park there?

Guys_Dad

All leases and tenancies are subject to the t&c in the lease with the landowner. If these t&c give the managing agent rights to bring in measures they deem fit - such as PPCS - then that is where troubles start and lawyers make money.

As a tenant of a leaseholder having gone through a letting agent, just who would you seek to recoup any penalty charges from? The chain is a nightmare with any participants blaming others.