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Motorbiker punched off my wing mirror deliberately - What can I do?

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  • ChumLee
    ChumLee Posts: 749 Forumite
    DrRadar wrote: »
    I have reported to my insurance company but the options seem to be:
    • Claim on insurance - Issue here is excess is £250, may loose now claims and my premium will go up. So may be worse off. Or would my insurance company use his to cover damage? Since its not a road accident more along the lines of deliberate damage would his insurance even pay out?
    • Proceed with criminal damage claim via police - I am not even sure how this would work. I have spoke with police and reported the incident and they are investigating. I don't know what the likely outcomes of this process are though.


    Have you got a crime number?
  • ChumLee
    ChumLee Posts: 749 Forumite
    DrRadar wrote: »
    Yes exactly. There is two issues I guess. The near miss and the intentional damage afterwards.

    Near miss hasn't got anything to do with your issue.
  • Joe_Horner
    Joe_Horner Posts: 4,895 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    [...] It's the drivers fault that he nice biker took off his wing mirror? Nonsense. Nothing the driver did at any point justified the bikers reaction.[...]

    But he was gagging for it, M'lud!

    Oh, hang on, that justification went out about the same time as The Sweeny :D
  • DrRadar wrote: »
    I have reported to my insurance company but the options seem to be:
    • Claim on insurance - Issue here is excess is £250, may loose now claims and my premium will go up. So may be worse off. Or would my insurance company use his to cover damage? Since its not a road accident more along the lines of deliberate damage would his insurance even pay out?
    • Proceed with criminal damage claim via police - I am not even sure how this would work. I have spoke with police and reported the incident and they are investigating. I don't know what the likely outcomes of this process are though.
    Police will speak to other party and decide what action is appropriate. If they decide it is all too confusing, they may do nothing, if they decide that the motorcyclist had previous, they could charge him with criminal damage, or they could strongly suggest that the motorcyclist pay for the damage.

    As you have had an incident that you should report (and now will have to let other insurers know), your insurance may go up anyway, but as the cost is likely to be less than £250 (unless you need some respraying then the cost could be depressingly high for a small amount of damage) it is likely that it is not actually worth claiming for.

    Perhaps the motorcyclist might be embarrassed to discover that instead of just unclipping a wing mirror he has trashed it. It is a popular thing to suggest, the idea normally being it is just a bit of a nuisance to refit.

    As you need your wing mirror, unless it is possible to bodge it in the short term to be good enough, you need to get it fixed ahead of any police resolution. Get a quote and decide what to do about claiming.
  • davybull
    davybull Posts: 60 Forumite
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    Minrich wrote: »
    Look at this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuN5HsaOMiU

    Motorcyclist travelling fast on a straight bit of road , the motorcyclist died , the car driver was prosecuted . The headlight of the bike was on , cannot be turned off , but it still happened . Car drivers need to understand that bikes don't manoeuvre as quickly as a car , a bike is not steered the same way . Lessons need to learn't every day by all riders and drivers .

    On of my best mates is a Police Class 1 driver / rider and when I showed him this video he said that even lit up with blues and twos he wouldn't have gone through that junction with that situation at more than 55mph. This guy was doing 97mph, utter lunacy.

    I ride with him most weeks and some of the things we see from fellow bikers are just suicidal.

    Having said that many cage drivers act like they are blind.

    Dave.
  • ChumLee
    ChumLee Posts: 749 Forumite
    Police will speak to other party and decide what action is appropriate. If they decide it is all too confusing, they may do nothing, if they decide that the motorcyclist had previous, they could charge him with criminal damage, or they could strongly suggest that the motorcyclist pay for the damage.

    As you have had an incident that you should report (and now will have to let other insurers know), your insurance may go up anyway, but as the cost is likely to be less than £250 (unless you need some respraying then the cost could be depressingly high for a small amount of damage) it is likely that it is not actually worth claiming for.

    Perhaps the motorcyclist might be embarrassed to discover that instead of just unclipping a wing mirror he has trashed it. It is a popular thing to suggest, the idea normally being it is just a bit of a nuisance to refit.

    As you need your wing mirror, unless it is possible to bodge it in the short term to be good enough, you need to get it fixed ahead of any police resolution. Get a quote and decide what to do about claiming.

    If a simple damage is too confusing they should consider resignation.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 17 August 2015 at 7:24PM
    DrRadar wrote: »
    No I haven't ridden I bike. In my opinion it appeared that he ended up like that purely because of his high speed.
    Getting the back wheel off the ground is called a stoppie. They're unlikely during an emergency stop. Most are done intentionally and at lower speeds and I suspect are harder to achieve at higher speeds. Most are done for fun or effect. Was the biker a bit of a show off?.

    Congratulations on finding the quote button. Typing underneath what you are quoting makes more sense.
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    davybull wrote: »

    Having said that many cage drivers act like they are blind.

    It is because they can't see through solid objects, as I explained earlier. The problem is most of them don't even realise they have these blind spots.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • bazster
    bazster Posts: 7,436 Forumite
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    edited 17 August 2015 at 7:41PM
    ChumLee wrote: »
    So the offenders policy paid out? That's impressive.

    Hmm, nope, I've read your post again and there's no mention of the offender's policy.

    "since when has motor insurance covered you for criminal offences such as damage?"

    Well my policy covers me for criminal acts. If someone damages my vehicle, sets fire to it or nicks it I'm covered.
    Je suis Charlie.
  • ChumLee
    ChumLee Posts: 749 Forumite
    bazster wrote: »
    Hmm, nope, I've read your post again and there's no mention of the offender's policy.

    "since when has motor insurance covered you for criminal offences such as damage?"

    Well my policy covers me for criminal acts. If someone damages my vehicle, sets fire to it or nicks it I'm covered.


    Try reading the post I quoted then. It was always a question about the offenders insurance and not the victims.
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