Heartwarming tales of House prices

Jason74

mystic_trev wrote: »

I think you'll find that they're are many on that site suffering from forms of mental illness and personality disorders.You just have to read some of the posts. Very sad.

There are certainly some strange views going on. I was silly enough to try and engage them in reasoned debate on their "prime London crashing" thread. The act of pointing out that a 60% fall in London prices was not entirely realistic got me labelled as a troll and an estate agent (which is laughable to anyone who's read my posts and views about on here). And apparently I (and anyone else) must have had BOMAD assistance or inheritance to be a homeowner (that view is of course in itself telling)


I think the issue is that the site has long since ceased to be a serious site of debate. As others on here have mentioned, the more sensible people on that site will have bought and got on with their life in 2009-2012. Those who are left are the extreme fringe, and that along with the tendency to ban anyone not "on message" has left the site as a shadow of the lively debate of 10 years ago.


It's now nothing more than a "safe place" where the disaffected can rant unchallenged, and enjoy shouting at anyone who wanders in with a view anything other than a huge crash is imminent. In spending time in such an environment, they become ever more convinced and extreme in their views, thereby fueling the self destructive cycle.

Sibley

The binned me because I was always on the attack.

Funny thing about it. I'm not really that tuned into the financial market. I just worked on the assumption that rich people including MP's, don't let house prices crash allowing poor people to pick up bargains at their expense.

I was worried for a while but the MP's did as I anticipated and moved the goalposts. Once help for home owners and mortgage rates were cut to nearly zero, it was all over for a crash.

Of course they didn't like my views when that happened.

It's a shame they banned everyone. It could be the busiest and one of the most interesting forums going. All they have now is a few nutters.

Bad move from the owners. They could have sold it for $$$$$...

Maybe invested the profit in BTL .....:rotfl:

ruggedtoast

Over on that forum they are mad at life's hand. They blame the boomers.

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Posted Today, 08:55 PM
Hpc is currently somewhat fixated with the changes to the way that btl is taxed. That's all well and good but the house price crash will never be complete as long as the interests of the baby boomer generation are STILL prioritised by successive governments. Btl is only part of the problem. The boomers are still partying. On our taxes.

You see this in some threads in this forum. Well paid and unproductive boomer academics blocking jobs. Elderly avoiding downsizing but ignoring the social problems this creates, whilst supporting government that fails to do anything to pop their financial subsidised bubble. Crocodile tears in other words.
Edited by Si1, Today, 08:57 PM.

Sibley

Good God.

That is one very twisted renter.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Out of all the things you could look at on the internet (hilarious cat antics, cartoons from your childhood, naked boobies etc) looking up prices of houses in areas in which you have no intention of living and then listing them on the Are The Shires Crashing thread seems a depressing waste of technology and time.

I'm certain a psychology student would get a PhD thesis out of the denial, group-think and language used. The ferocity with which anyone who mutters meekly about maybe thinking about buying for their family is greeted is astounding.

Graham_Devon

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Out of all the things you could look at on the internet (hilarious cat antics, cartoons from your childhood, naked boobies etc) looking up prices of houses in areas in which you have no intention of living and then listing them on the Are The Shires Crashing thread seems a depressing waste of technology and time.

I'm certain a psychology student would get a PhD thesis out of the denial, group-think and language used. The ferocity with which anyone who mutters meekly about maybe thinking about buying for their family is greeted is astounding.

Surely if writing on the thread is a depressing waste of time...

....writing about what someone else wrote on a thread on another website is an even bigger waste of time?

Attempting to make out others are extremely sad when obsessing about them on another website is a difficult balancing act. (This is not aimed at you particularly!)

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Surely if writing on the thread is a depressing waste of time...

....writing about what someone else wrote on a thread on another website is an even bigger waste of time?

Attempting to make out others are extremely sad when obsessing about them on another website is a difficult balancing act. (This is not aimed at you particularly!)

Quite true! I guess I look on them as an amusing curiosity for when I'm having a quiet day at work (which is often over the summer as I work at a university). Most internet forums (and there's a forum for literally everything these days) are for enthusiasts; of cars, sport, trains, celebs, pets, collectors of the weirdest memorabilia etc. It's unusual for one to be based around negatives, held together with a vitriolic hatred for the rest of the world. They hate MSE apparently...

JencParker

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Quite true! I guess I look on them as an amusing curiosity for when I'm having a quiet day at work (which is often over the summer as I work at a university). Most internet forums (and there's a forum for literally everything these days) are for enthusiasts; of cars, sport, trains, celebs, pets, collectors of the weirdest memorabilia etc. It's unusual for one to be based around negatives, held together with a vitriolic hatred for the rest of the world. They hate MSE apparently...

You do realise like attracts like, don't you. The smug vitriol I read on this forum is equally nauseous.

ukcarper

JencParker wrote: »

You do realise like attracts like, don't you. The smug vitriol I read on this forum is equally nauseous.

But this forum tolerates both sides of the argument we have both extremes and all shades in between.

Jason74

JencParker wrote: »

You do realise like attracts like, don't you. The smug vitriol I read on this forum is equally nauseous.

I think that's a bit harsh to be honest. Yes there are a couple of posters who have a deliberately provocative stance, but you can nonetheless have a sensible and reasoned debate with them.

As someone who sees rising house prices as a significant social problem, BTL as something that needs to be actively curbed, and many of the extraordinary measures of recent years as misguided (and this isn't the thread to actually debate any of that imho) my views are a long way from many posters on here. And yet after 500 odd posts, I've only twice felt that posters were out of order in their responses to points I've raised, and i:'be often been "thanked" by posters I've argued with as part of the courtesy of a respectful and lively debate.

Compare that to HPC, where anything other than cheerleading for a crash meets with personal abuse , and it really is chalk and cheese. Or to put it another way, here you get a few "over the line" posts / posters. Over there, anything other than that is the exception.