Morrisons Milk for Farmers

Zola.

I've never met a poor farmer. Also, why is this in the DIY section... are you planning on building a milking shed?

lisa110rry

This thread "includes" DIY but is not restricted to it, indeed it is called "In my home". I couldn't find a more suitable place, but happy for it to be moved...

Glad you sorted out the 23p/10p question, I fear I was first to mislead you by using "four pint container" and then mentioning 10p.

Gordon_Hose

This isn't about Farmers, it's about Morrisons making more money through more people shopping at their store "because they said they'd pay farmers more for their milk".

The general public aren't the ones ripping farmers off - yet we have to stump up more for milk? Yeah, right.

Excuse my cynicism, but Morrison's is a business, here to make money for the shareholders. No more, no less.

srm1

Wasn't there a milk marketing board set up to control production and prices?
Disolved in1994 and perhaps the cause of the current situation.

antenna

When you purchase milk in a supermarket,at the till you should be asked if you want to give 10p a litre....so you still pick up the same 89p milk and only when you get to the till you then choose to pay the 20 p to the farmers,the cashier just presses one key to add the 20p.....surely this is much easier than choosing special labeled milk.

leveller2911

Gordon_Hose wrote: »

Excuse my cynicism, but Morrison's is a business, here to make money for the shareholders. No more, no less.

I agree and although I do have some sympathy for farmers they are already subsidised by the public through the EU subsidies. I run a business which makes money and no one subsidises me so why are farmers "special"?.. Farmers are there to make money just like Morrisons so why do they allow themselves to be constrained by the contracts and told how much the supermarkets are going to pay them for their products..

I don't have clients telling me how much they are going to pay me for my product ,I tell them how much I charge and if they don't like it they are free to walk away . Its called a free market capitalism.

I don't accept people saying "they are the custodians of the countryside" when the fact is they want the publics money through subsidies but don't want the public to set one foot on their land/Public Rights of way etc.

Farmers are on benefits in the same way as anyone who claims Working tax credits ,its just got a different name "subsidy" but farmers don't get criticised as much.

leveller2911

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Mojisola

leveller2911 wrote: »

I don't have clients telling me how much they are going to pay me for my product ,I tell them how much I charge and if they don't like it they are free to walk away . Its called a free market capitalism.

What would you do if the buyers did walk away, leaving you with tanks full of milk?

leveller2911

Mojisola wrote: »

What would you do if the buyers did walk away, leaving you with tanks full of milk?

Then there is an over supply of milk.The suppliers will either buy more milk in from other countries or pay more for the milk to UK farmers. Its supply and demand.

The smaller,inefficient farmers will either diversify or go bust. They are no different than thousands of other businesses in the country except they aren't subsidised by the taxpayer. I make joinery (windows,doors,staircases,kitchens etc) and you can buy all of those products countrywide and EU wide. You can have bespoke windows made in Lithuania. My point being the rest of us have to compete on a Europe/worlwide basis so why shouldn't farmers.

I play snooker with a few farmers ,mainly sheep,livestock and they are always whinging about the price of Lamb etc but they are all wealthy men who own their farms and some own more than one farm. One farmer pleading poverty has now retired and sold off his flock of Ewes .They were part of his pension, he had nearly 10,000 .Now multiply that by £50 per Ewe/lamb (minimum) so £500,000 and that just part of his pension.The farm is worth around £2.5million and yet he has been subsidised by us all for decades. There are genuine cases of hardship in farming, tenant farmers and hill farmers but the vast majority of them are far richer than the people who subsidise them.

Mojisola

leveller2911 wrote: »

Then there is an over supply of milk.The suppliers will either buy more milk in from other countries or pay more for the milk to UK farmers. Its supply and demand.

The smaller,inefficient farmers will either diversify or go bust.

Which is exactly what is happening. Several dairy farmers sell up every week in the UK but until they reach that point, they have no option but to sell at the price they are offered.