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Scottish Economy thriving under Tory policies...
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Leanne1812 wrote: »I'd argue that if the parents who can pay do then their children can still attend university. It becomes unobtainable for young people from poorer backgrounds who's parents cannot afford it.
How do we decide who can and cant afford to pay though? My husband earns more than £21,000 I earn less than £5,000 we could never afford for our son to go to uni, thankfully it was paid for and he got a Honours degree (1st), he is now saving up for his masters0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »Exclusively Tory policies which are good.. and all the SNP ones are bad ? R---iii---ght.
You didn't read the full article AND the analysis did you.
And I can't believe you're still spouting the old Greece/Scotland mantra. If people were going to believe guff like that the SNP would've been out on their ears long before now. Give it a rest.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-33535061
Was this the 'proof' you were talking about on the other thread that the SNP were responsible for the GDP increase in Scotland not the Tories?
I suspect that you don't understand how GDP is calculated and so think that the SNP spending money provided by Londoners makes the SNP responsible for the higher GDP that results.0 -
Was this the 'proof' you were talking about on the other thread that the SNP were responsible for the GDP increase in Scotland not the Tories?
I suspect that you don't understand how GDP is calculated and so think that the SNP spending money provided by Londoners makes the SNP responsible for the higher GDP that results.
The article and analysis weren't solely about pure GDP figs in isolation. In fact the heading was about unemployment figures.The Scottish economy grew by 2.8% between the first quarter of 2014 and the first quarter of this year, while the UK economy grew by 2.9%.But remember that the population is growing at different speeds, largely due to migration, and the output per head is an important measure of whether productivity is on the rise.
That growth rate per head in the year to March was 2.5% for Scotland and 2.2% for the UK. Since 2012, output per capita was up 5% in Scotland, ahead of 4.6% in the UK as a whole.
That suggests something is going relatively right. But it's relative to a poor performance. The whole of the UK needs to do more to get productivity rising, not least to make those wage rises sustainable.
Lets not too get carried away, that poor performance was five years of Tory policies. And yes, Scottish Government policies helped ( as the article also states). It wasn't just down to Tory policies, with no input from the SNP as Hamish claimed.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0 -
How do we decide who can and cant afford to pay though? My husband earns more than £21,000 I earn less than £5,000 we could never afford for our son to go to uni, thankfully it was paid for and he got a Honours degree (1st), he is now saving up for his masters
That's my point. Your son was given the opportunity because the Scottish gov made it so which I agree with entirely. It's kids from working class/ low wage families who would be at a disadvantage.0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »Lets not too get carried away, that poor performance was five years of Tory policies. And yes, Scottish Government policies helped ( as the article also states). It wasn't just down to Tory policies, with no input from the SNP as Hamish claimed.
Majority of policy was set by Brown. Changes simply don't happen overnight.0 -
How do we decide who can and cant afford to pay though? My husband earns more than £21,000 I earn less than £5,000 we could never afford for our son to go to uni, thankfully it was paid for and he got a Honours degree (1st), he is now saving up for his masters
what would you have expected to pay under the English system that wasn't paid under the Scottish system?0 -
Leanne1812 wrote: »That's my point. Your son was given the opportunity because the Scottish gov made it so which I agree with entirely. It's kids from working class/ low wage families who would be at a disadvantage.
give us the facts whereby the kids of low wage families in England would be worse off than the kids of low wage families in Scotland
PS working class and low wage are NOT equivalent terms0 -
Leanne1812 wrote: »That's my point. Your son was given the opportunity because the Scottish gov made it so which I agree with entirely. It's kids from working class/ low wage families who would be at a disadvantage.
I am all for free education for all tbh ... up to a certain level, I am slightly concerned though at the push towards honours degrees over degrees, and extra year of studying and more debt for the student ( if they take out the student loan)
I do however believe that Masters etc should be paid for by the student, and include my son in this as well0 -
I am all for free education for all tbh ... up to a certain level, I am slightly concerned though at the push towards honours degrees over degrees, and extra year of studying and more debt for the student ( if they take out the student loan)
I do however believe that Masters etc should be paid for by the student, and include my son in this as well
In England, Honours degrees are usually three year courses
In sciences there is an optional M Sci 4th year0
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