Cycling question - signalling left and right?

frisbeej

Altarf wrote: »

You need to try and stay on track old boy.

What are YOU doing about colour blind red light jumping cyclists?

What are you doing about the non-colour blind red light running car, truck and bus drivers that I see doing it everyday?


While sat on my bike waiting a good few seconds after the lights turn green until I set off as I don't want to get run over by something much bigger and far more dangerous driven by some numpty...

Altarf

frisbeej wrote: »

What are you doing about the non-colour blind red light running car, truck and bus drivers that I see doing it everyday?

The occasional car drivers may be an 'amber gambler', which is significantly different the brazen attitude of a significant number of thoughtless numpty cyclists who just go straight through red lights that have been on red for minutes.

brat wrote: »

Oh we do! You just choose to ignore it, because it doesn't suit your argument.

I clipped the "blah, blah, blah" regarding drivers, as that is not relevant to this discussion, two wrongs not making a right, etc.

Anyway, glad to hear that you agree that the police need to actively target the significant proportion of colour blind red light jumping cyclists.

So how do you suggest this is achieved?

It would need to be cost effective, so given how many red light jumping cyclists there are it would take a lot of police. Perhaps confiscation of bikes to be sold to cover costs?

Norman_Castle

Altarf wrote: »

Speeding, again a bad thing. Is it that common. Not in my experience, as to use your prior argument, most drivers stay below the limit, so the people who want to speed generally cannot speed.

In my experience the only drivers who stick to the 30 limit are learners on lessons. Presumably you don't recognise this as illegal because everybody does it and it suits you.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

Nothing, because I am not employed by the Police.

custardy wrote: »

So there we go.
You arent responsible for those drivers and.......

Altarf wrote: »

You need to try and stay on track old boy.

What are YOU doing about colour blind red light jumping cyclists?

Did you forget your own words so quickly?

Altarf

Norman_Castle wrote: »

In my experience the only drivers who stick to the 30 limit are learners on lessons. Presumably you don't recognise this as illegal because everybody does it and it suits you.

Not my experience. Where I live I rarely see anyone do more than 30 in a 30.

Anyway, as before, two wrongs don't make a right, especially when we are talking about the occasional driver breaking the law, but a significant proportion of cyclists.

What can be done to curtail the illegal behaviour of cyclists, when the reaction from their own community whenever it is mentioned is not to decry it, but shout about irrelevancies.

It is so funny watching cyclists try to defend the indefensible.

Norman_Castle

Altarf wrote: »

The occasional car drivers may be an 'amber gambler',

The occasional driver?. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7765332/More-than-half-of-British-drivers-colour-blind-to-red-traffic-lights.html
Maybe you're a bit blind, or possibly just blinkered.

custardy

Altarf wrote: »

especially when we are talking about the occasional driver breaking the law, but a significant proportion of cyclists.
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and again......

Norman_Castle

Altarf wrote: »

Duh the hard of thinking are out today.

Altarf wrote: »

It is so funny watching cyclists try to defend the indefensible.

Has anyone defended red light jumping?.

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

and again......

Yet again the cyclist's apologist does not condemn the law breaking carried out by a significant number of their colour blind red light jumping colleagues.

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Has anyone defended red light jumping?.

Nobody has condemned the cyclists that do.

Do you agree that red light jumping by cyclists is illegal and anti-social?

Norman_Castle

"Don't argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."