Cycling question - signalling left and right?

Marco_Panettone

You know amber means 'stop', right?


Anyway, there are plenty of other threads where you can continue this argument. You won't even have to type - everything's already been written. Give it up.

Tobster86

Signal in the same way for all the same circumstances you would in a car.

Where the similarities end are for hazard warning signals. Sticking both of your arms out under such circumstances would likely make the situation worse.

Altarf

custardy wrote: »

No need for me to say anything here.

Glad you agree about cyclists being colour blind.

Johnmcl7

Altarf wrote: »

There is no argument, only facts. Cyclists are colour blind.

That is most certainly not a fact - following that logic all road users are colour blind because there is no one group (cars, motorbikes, pedal bikes etc.) that every single member obeys traffic lights. Categorising all cyclists as the same when they're one of the most diverse groups on the road is simply ignorant.

John

Limey

For practice with stability I used to cycle about one handed (when safe to do so). Scratch your !!!!, touch your ankles, just do things while on the bike it will make you much less of a 'wobbler'. Same principle with horse riding exercises, we used to do full 360 degree turn abouts (round the world) in the saddle at a canter to improve our confidence on the horse.

mkdavies

Maybe that's because of how people are conditioned to drive. Motorists expect pedestrians to jump out of their way... even when they unexpectedly turn without indicating! I guess it's just part of the mentality of having a vehicle big enough to mow people down.

So true! As a general rule, always signal, I've had serious accidents from making brash assumptions.

JP08

OP - unless you are cycling very slowly, you will find it very difficult to signal and brake at the same time. Under normal braking weight transference forward though the hands is about equal on each side of the handlebars. One handed, all weight transference is via the hand still on the handlebars only - pushing only on one side. It will take some serious locking of arm muscles to avoid a sudden and probably catastrophic turn.

Signal or brake, don't try both at the same time ...

custardy

JP08 wrote: »

OP - unless you are cycling very slowly, you will find it very difficult to signal and brake at the same time. Under normal braking weight transference forward though the hands is about equal on each side of the handlebars. One handed, all weight transference is via the hand still on the handlebars only - pushing only on one side. It will take some serious locking of arm muscles to avoid a sudden and probably catastrophic turn.

Signal or brake, don't try both at the same time ...

feathered brakes and planned speed.
No reason you cant signal and brake.yes not for the novice,but it just takes practice and knowing your brakes.

Altarf

Johnmcl7 wrote: »

That is most certainly not a fact - following that logic all road users are colour blind because there is no one group (cars, motorbikes, pedal bikes etc.) that every single member obeys traffic lights. Categorising all cyclists as the same when they're one of the most diverse groups on the road is simply ignorant.

I have yet to see a car or motorbike drive up to a red light, which has been red for some time, and carry on straight through without taking a breath.

Yet everyday I see numerous cyclists do exactly that.

If is simply foolish to argue that the "diverse" group of cyclists does not have a significant colour blindness problem amongst its membership.

If cyclists want to improve their name, then in their "diverse" group, the non-colour blind should begin condemning the colour blind, instead of trying to point the finger elsewhere.

Johnmcl7

Altarf wrote: »

I have yet to see a car or motorbike drive up to a red light, which has been red for some time, and carry on straight through without taking a breath.

Yet everyday I see numerous cyclists do exactly that.

If is simply foolish to argue that the "diverse" group of cyclists does not have a significant colour blindness problem amongst its membership.

If cyclists want to improve their name, then in their "diverse" group, the non-colour blind should begin condemning the colour blind, instead of trying to point the finger elsewhere.

There are plenty cars and motorcyclists that go through red lights - since you like 'facts', you can put in a FOI request for TS10 prosecutions. People will remember bad driving/riding/cycling but they're less likely to remember any good examples of any as your post very much demonstrates. On a daily basis I see all three sailing through red lights, there are no red light cameras in the city where I live so drivers don't tend to be that careful about them and it's foolish for anyone claim drivers are angels compared to cyclists in that regard.

The difference is though I'm able to differentiate between individual drivers and drivers as a whole so I don't blame all drivers for the actions of the individuals which is sadly a skill you are entirely lacking in.

As for 'cyclists improving their name', well I had to laugh at that - do you see any cyclists (including myself) endorsing others here to run red lights? No? Me neither, I'm careful to follow traffic lights myself and don't in any way approve of others doing it. But hey, that can't be possible right because you saw a cyclist going through a red light so that means every other cyclist must be exactly the same. I hope you're posing regularly in the motoring forum to get drivers to improve their image and stop going through red lights and using their mobile phone when driving particularly when an impact from a car is vastly more dangerous than a bike...no, appears you're not, I guess the blindness isn't on my side after all.

At least these waste of space anti-cyclist posts are good for updating ignore lists.

John