We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Benefit cuts to hit more than 330,000 children

1252628303133

Comments

  • BoJangles_2
    BoJangles_2 Posts: 878 Forumite
    2500 doesnt pay my mortgage or car for a year :T I work my husband works so we still pay tax and I paid tax before I had to take a job part time hours.. Small minded

    "dont deserve to have a car or own their own home"

    And? I was making comment on the statement you made above :T:T
  • sxcizme3010
    sxcizme3010 Posts: 265 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    BoJangles wrote: »
    "dont deserve to have a car or own their own home"

    And? I was making comment on the statement you made above :T:T

    I'm not going to fell bad for claiming a top up temporarily from a pot that I have contributed to! :rotfl:
  • BoJangles_2
    BoJangles_2 Posts: 878 Forumite
    I'm not going to fell bad for claiming a top up temporarily from a pot that I have contributed to! :rotfl:

    Who is saying you should? In the same way I'd never say a pensioner should do for what they are given...
  • sxcizme3010
    sxcizme3010 Posts: 265 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Listen keyboard warriors I claim a top up whilst I look for a better paid job - Its not much but it helps us out. I have paid into the system and we both work currently so Im not going to be told I dont deserve to own my home or have a car. If you dont like it thats your problem.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 12,999 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    si he works 13 1/2 hours a day?
    at minimum wage he would earn 22.4k a year.
    you earn another 4 k a year[.
    so you work 4 hours, 3 times a week.
    taking into consideration that you work weekends ( in the evenings) it still leaves you all day, both days.

    i don't get what you expect.
    most people have to do this when they have children. why are you an exception?
    you are only being criticised because you think you should be getting praised for doing what you should be doing!

    i like many others, worked all the hours god gave when out kids were young.
    i was a single parent of 2 and regularly put in 50 hours a week, doing a low paid job
    i don't expect praise ... i was just doing what i had to in order to make ends meet.
    now in the era of tax credits, people think they deserve a pat on the back for working at all/B]
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    Listen keyboard warriors I claim a top up whilst I look for a better paid job - Its not much but it helps us out. I have paid into the system and we both work currently so Im not going to be told I dont deserve to own my home or have a car. If you dont like it thats your problem.

    Honestly, you're the one that's coming across as a keyboard warrior - it comes across that you're just ranting for the sake of it, especially as half your posts contradict each other.

    Have a brew, step away from the keyboard ... breathe :D
  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    My husband works 7-8.30 5 days a week and I work 12 hours over 3 nights.... So yes I hardly see him as I work on his days off etc.. I dont understand some of your mentality.. 2 people working household, married, 2 kids, we get a top up as Im in low paid part time work but previously 20k job and Im getting abuse...... Should all welfare be scrapped? (except pensioners as they need loads of money) Its ridiculous. As soon as I can get back to a reasonable wage and I no longer get tax credits will that be enough or should anybody earning less than 60k not have kids ever (60k is still struggling) I mean honestly - its small minded pettiness

    I don't think people are having a go at you personally it's just you don't seem to see that others just above help may have less money. Let's take 2 FT workers who are say civil servants with a modest rent. They will get CB - all going towards childcare. They probably do get help with childcare but still pay a wedge. They aren't going to have anywhere near the disposable income you have due to rents and childcare.

    That's not your fault and you shouldn't feel guilty but it's then natural for them to say "we both work full time we should be better off". Then the kick in the teeth of a 1% pay rise - yet again after years of nothing. £9 isn't going to help them one bit - they are stuffed. It causes resentment when people with more disposable income / or similar income but more disposable time who contribute less in taxation come out better.

    People should be better off working more hours and in "better paid" jobs but TC have altered that. Those above see this - yet those on them don't. It's not going change until the persons circumstances change. EG if your HB lost his job and you lose your home - you'd feel aggrieved that you need to wait 39 weeks for any help and they put a charge on your home. Rightly so IMO - however, renters would say "tough". There's always that fine line with benefits that both sides won't agree on.

    You say you are low paid - others think you get more than they do.

    As I said I don't think its personal
    Tomorrow is the most important thing in life
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Or is it middle income earners believe people on lower wages actually dont deserve to have a car or own their own home????
    You seem to have massively inflated sense of entitlement for your age. Not talking about benefits specifically, but about what your lifestyle should be at your age. You ONLY work 12 hours, yet you think that it is your due that you should be a home owner, drive a decent car, I expect furnish you house nicely, enjoy week-ends away, and maybe some holiday abroad.

    You've done very well to be where you are, but it would be much more of an example to give others if indeed you didn't need to rely on tax credits to do so, nor ending up in significant debts.

    I today enjoy a nice lifestyle due to high combined income, but at 24, I was still sharing a flat furnished with second hand furniture, more or less what I could scrap, and drove a beat up car that kept letting me down (thankfully the boys did stop then to help!). I worked full-time, earnt what I thought was a decent wage for my age, but I was conscious that this was still a low wage and never did I expect that it should allow me to afford more than what I had.

    It seems that young adults expect what older adults have at younger and younger age and then resent these older adults for not wanting their tax to go on giving them the same things they had to work hard for many years to be able to enjoy.
  • NYM
    NYM Posts: 4,066 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    edited 28 July 2015 at 7:47PM
    Listen keyboard warriors I claim a top up whilst I look for a better paid job - Its not much but it helps us out. I have paid into the system and we both work currently so Im not going to be told I dont deserve to own my home or have a car. If you dont like it thats your problem.


    Don't take the comments as a personal attack, they aren't intended as such.

    It's unfortunate that some people will undoubtedly struggle financially because of the reduction in WTC/CTC (?) it's unfortunate but it has to happen at some point. The Country cannot continue to support those that have the opportunity to get full time work/better paid work but choose not to because they receive a considerable sum through Tax Credits.

    As I said, please don't take it personally.
  • Bogof_Babe
    Bogof_Babe Posts: 10,803 Forumite
    I assume grammar is not one of your strengths.
    'Benefits cuts to bring reality to parents of 330,000 children'.

    What's wrong with that?
    :D I haven't bogged off yet, and I ain't no babe :D

This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.4K Life & Family
  • 258.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.