I have read the newbies sticky.. Still need help! JD PARKING CONSULTANTS

Robyn_banx

good morning, thanks for replies

her dad is the RK - I will be putting it in his hands once iv been instructed by you lot.

there were NO PCN recieved at all just NTK

can't upload URL for images because I'm a new user.. help just been and taken a couple of pictures one of which could be the ANPR on the roof

Robyn_banx

can i email them to someone to upload for me? yes we will have moved the car 3 times were always in an out. interested you say.. just so I'm clear.. JDPC aren't registered/licensed/accredited/approved/allowed to use ANPR?

i think its the maintainance men lol

enfield_freddy

Robyn_banx wrote: »

good morning, thanks for replies

her dad is the RK - I will be putting it in his hands once iv been instructed by you lot.

there were NO PCN recieved at all just NTK

can't upload URL for images because I'm a new user.. help just been and taken a couple of pictures one of which could be the ANPR on the roof

put you piccis on the web , and post the link , but alter the HTTP to HXXP , and one of us will alter and post them , when you say cameras on the roof , that will probably be an CCTV camera used by the caretaker/council/police? , what we need to know is if JD are clearly stating on their signage that ANPR is being used , either by text or by a logo .


CCTV cameras are very different to ANPR cameras ,

enfield_freddy

Robyn_banx wrote: »

can i email them to someone to upload for me? yes we will have moved the car 3 times were always in an out. interested you say.. just so I'm clear.. JDPC aren't registered/licensed/accredited/approved/allowed to use ANPR?

i think its the maintainance men lol

so therefore , no ANPR = ticket on car = NTK between 29=56 days , which they have not done , therefore they haver failed POFa 2012 , so they can only chase the driver not the owner ,


unfortunately her father is going to get lots of worrying letters from PCS/DR+ and zenith , can he stand fast? ,


this mob will probably pay anyone £10 a time for a photo , so YUP it could be the maintenance blokes ,

bazster

There is not a cat in hell's chance of JD using ANPR. Most likely it's a self-ticketing operation where some Norris Cole-type resident took a picture with a mobile 'phone and sent it to JD.

Robyn_banx

just spoke to the maintainance guy.. its not him! lol
he seemed bemused and said he knew nothing about it. said theres one camera but thats for our/their safety.

the thing i thought was a camera was winch/wynch according to him.. makes sense [img]hxxp://i.imgur.com/mGgy0aM.jpg[/img]

This is the signage: [img]hxxp://i.imgur.com/SjL97Xq.jpg?1[/img]

thanks again

enfield_freddy

bazster wrote: »

There is not a cat in hell's chance of JD using ANPR. Most likely it's a self-ticketing operation where some Norris Cole-type resident took a picture with a mobile 'phone and sent it to JD.

so receiving a NTK in less than 29-56 days is a failure to comply with POFa 2012 , I think a word with the BPA about this , and seeing as this is a one man band , the DVLA , because this scum life is very unlikely to have paid for your info 6 times ,


time he was brought down a peg or two

enfield_freddy

http://i.imgur.com/SjL97Xq.jpg?1


ahh he is stating ANPR (by showing the recognisable camera logo) however his equipment has not been accredited or approved by the BPA


he is also stating "camera technology" , that's a Samsung galaxy!! but that does not exempt him from placing tickets on vehicles and not applying for info from the DVLA until day 28 after the event , he is not playing ball and is breaking his agreement with the DVLA ,,,,,,,,,,,letters/email time!!

Guys_Dad

POFA 2012 is, unfortunately, not helpful re hand held cameras and it may very well be the maintenance men who snapped you as if it was a warden then why would he not leave a ticket?? The maintenance men would not be in a position to issue you with a compliant windscreen ticket but Santa may have sent them a cheap camera for Christmas.

POFA reads
"(1) The second condition is that the creditor (or a person
acting for or on behalf of the creditor):
(a) has given a notice to driver in accordance with
paragraph 7, followed by a notice to keeper in
accordance with paragraph 8; or
(b) has given a notice to keeper in accordance with
paragraph 9."

(a) didn't apply so Paragraph 9 would be the condition that applies and that has a 14 day period and would also apply if you drove off when the warden was mid-ticket.

It is up to a judge ultimately to decide if a hand held camera photo was evidence of the parking contravention.

Sorry - ;posted before I read the maintenance men's denial and your picture. However, the notice does not say that only ANPR is being used - it just says camera technology . ANPR is automatic number plate recognition. Any idiot with a mobile phone can snap a picture and the PPCs employ some staff (not necessarily all) who can read.

Further edit:- I would not rely on Freddy's 28 day interpretation personally. I think he is incorrect.

enfield_freddy

we can all see that this is a shady guy (not you Guys dad!) , paying people to photo cars , now the situation is that he uses PCS as his back office , but WHO applied for your info from the DVLA , and how many times?


OP please contact


David A Morgan
Freedom of Information Team
Data Sharing & Protection Group | Strategy, Policy and Communications Group | D16 | DVLA | Swansea | SA6 7JL
Twitter: @dvlagovuk
GTN 1213 Ext 88586
(01792) 788586
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asking by whom , and what dates was info requested on (your) vehicle , reg no XXXXXX