New Vauxhall Viva

IamNotAllowedToUseMyName

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Because Vauxhall is an historic British brand and the British market would not relate to Opel, being a German brand, as much.

Presumably, they have concluded they cannot ride the coat tales of being a German marque.

Nessun_Dorma

IanMSpencer wrote: »

Presumably, they have concluded they cannot ride the coat tales of being a German marque.

Good point, but I don't think the desire to have a German car extends to this end of the market.

aeroblade

photome wrote: »

Unless it an M series or a lexus or a yaris,, anything I have forgotten?

Oh yes, the bog standard eco box that you drive

DominicH

Nessun_Dorma wrote:

Good point, but I don't think the desire to have a German car extends to this end of the market.

It's all a bit meaningless anyway. I drive a German car - a Ford Focus made in Saarlouis. Meanwhile, my poor old neighbour has to make do with a Spanish car - a VW Polo.

aeroblade

DominicH wrote: »

It's all a bit meaningless anyway. I drive a German car - a Ford Focus made in Saarlouis. Meanwhile, my poor old neighbour has to make do with a Spanish car - a VW Polo.

VW Polo still has better interior materials than your Focus and will probably hold its value better too.

pogofish

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Oh, the irony.

No - Apologies. I meant the Chevette! :eek:

andrewf75

Nessun_Dorma wrote: »

Because Vauxhall is an historic British brand and the British market would not relate to Opel, being a German brand, as much.

The British market seems to relate very well to VW, BMW etc. Why on earth would they not relate to Opel?

and if as you say the lower end of the market doesn't aspire to German cars, why do they aspire to any brand? Skoda, Hyundai, Dacia are all highly successful despite their uncool brands. I just can't quite work out who these people are who think Vauxhall is a good brand!

aeroblade

Vauxhall and Ford are considered to be the pride and joy of British motoring heritage, for the masses. Predominantly you'll find the British working and middle class who prefer a Vauxhall/Ford to others mainly for nationalist views as they are 'British' motoring brands- in the sense that they're manufactured in Britain. Also Ford/Vauxhall are often in the lower price segment in the used market, weaker residual values in spite of the fact that when new, they're priced similarly to new Japanese cars.

aeroblade

Mind, you'll also may have noticed a trend in the past decade of the middleclass who strive to own German cars like Audi/BMW/Mercedes.

Nessun_Dorma

andrewf75 wrote: »

The British market seems to relate very well to VW, BMW etc. Why on earth would they not relate to Opel?

and if as you say the lower end of the market doesn't aspire to German cars, why do they aspire to any brand? Skoda, Hyundai, Dacia are all highly successful despite their uncool brands. I just can't quite work out who these people are who think Vauxhall is a good brand!

That's because they are aimed at a different market.