Residential not allowing move to supported living.

wrightk

mtwiscool wrote: »

The place i am living at is turning into supported living but they say that i would be moving even tho i was told before i moved here that i would be able to.
They say that my behavior (Ripping signs of walls an hitting staff) is not good enough and talk about independence levels.
And the horrible thing is that social services don't seam too interested in it even tho it would save money.

The thing is i do pay around £100 per week towards costs and i do not feel like i am getting any say in what is happing,


The thing is that i want to lower the cost to the tax payer but i do not feel like i am really given the chance.


And don't start me on the £24.90 left per week how little that is too help in getting training and getting a job (As even buses around here would eat that up in one).

And i am trying to find if they is any help from job centre plus but they are 9.5 miles away.

What should i do?

do you have a learning disability/disabled support worker (social services) or any type of support worker.making some sort of contact with someone who can help is top priority.

Goldiegirl

Laz123 wrote: »

Have you ever wanted to hit someone? What was it that stopped you? Genuine question.

I have and the only thing that prevented me from doing so was two things; the ability to calm myself down and the presence of mind to realise the outcome of the possible consequences.

Did you know 1 in 4 people in the UK EVERY YEAR experience some form of mental health issue? Did you know that? You could be next. What would you do if that happened? Genuine question.

Yes, I have wanted to hit someone.


It was at a time when I was under extreme stress, when my mum was ill and I was basically waiting for her to die. A man at really pushed my buttons - it was rather fortunate that there was a desk between us otherwise I may have flown at him without having time to think.


But - I was able to pull myself back in those few seconds. What stopped me was fear of losing my job if I thumped someone in the workplace, and also the knowledge that it's not acceptable to use violence against another person, in any circumstances.


FYI, I have had some mental health issues in the past regarding stress and panic attacks. What I did about it - I was lucky in so far as I was able to overcome my problems with support from family and friends - if not, I would have gone to the doctors.


My question to the OP still stands

wrightk

Goldiegirl wrote: »

But - I was able to pull myself back in those few seconds. What stopped me was fear of losing my job if I thumped someone in the workplace, and also the knowledge that it's not acceptable to use violence against another person, in any circumstances.

A lot of people with ASD (which is not a mental health problem but a neurodevelopmental disorder) do not have that rational thought process and cannot understand cause/effect

Goldiegirl

wrightk wrote: »

A lot of people with ASD (which is not a mental health problem but a neurodevelopmental disorder) do not have that rational thought process and cannot understand cause/effect

But not withstanding that, I'm still curious whether, on any level, the OP thinks it's ok to hit people.


Even though his thought processes may be different, is there help available to help him cope, so he can live his life in the wider community, without behaviours that society find unacceptable?

wrightk

Goldiegirl wrote: »

But not withstanding that, I'm still curious whether, on any level, the OP thinks it's ok to hit people.


Even though his thought processes may be different, is there help available to help him cope, so he can live his life in the wider community, without behaviours that society find unacceptable?

Transferring from residential to supported living is a huge step.in this age of austerity funding is being cut savagely for everyone. It's a very big step not only for the safety of others but also the OP.saying that I have seen plenty of people suitable for supported living with learning difficulties but who are kept in residential because it brings in a LOT of money for the provider. Judging by the fact the OP is in residential I'm guessing his needs are significant enough to warrant that environment and we don't know the full story but if its behaviour that's holding the OP back from supported living,then there is plenty that can be done.speaking first to support worker if they have one is a good start,recognising they need to work on anger/behavioural issues. This isn't just the responsibility of the OP but the care provider,arranging meetings/therapy and finding the causes and how to manage with stressful times.there may be sensory issues involved an OT can help with that. Seen way too many homes just accepting the persons behaviour and doing nothing about it/having minimal involvement from external agencies,its wrong.
First port of call is support worker/advocate to arrange further support get everyone together to work on issues holding the OP back from supported living,everyone talking to each other,working towards same goal.

NAS (national autistic society) is a good place to start too.there is good advice and support online/phone although becuase they are a charity the demand for advice and support far outweighs the staff they have to man phones etc

arcon5

wrightk wrote: »

A lot of people with ASD (which is not a mental health problem but a neurodevelopmental disorder) do not have that rational thought process and cannot understand cause/effect

And i'm betting a lot of people with ASD can still manage their conduct as far as physical violence is concerned.

wrightk

arcon5 wrote: »

And i'm betting a lot of people with ASD can still manage their conduct as far as physical violence is concerned.

Yes you are completely correct but that's how autism works.no two people are the same and the same goes for ASD. Yes they share the same core difficulties (3 triads of impairments) but how it affects them in specific areas is individual. I'm guessing the OP has a form of high functioning autism,its very common people in this category to be quite intelligent but struggle terribly with social interaction/communication/acceptable behaviour.

What advice have you given to the OP regarding their situation? Have you ever lived with autism? When you have witnessed people with autism/family members/your own child being aggressive,smashing their face against a wall,randomly attacking you,causing so much damage to property they put their own lives in danger and not even realise you'd soon change your tune.

I never ever condone aggressive behaviour or think it's right,but it can take years /decades to break those cycles and address causes/change behaviour in ASD

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This place staffing is not vary good often between 1:3 to 1:7.
This place does not even apper to be cheap (In face it appers to be vary expensive).

And before you ask with this staffing level the home would be efficient with how it uses staff but it is not, I have seen times when no staff ware available for people.

arcon5

wrightk wrote: »

Yes you are completely correct but that's how autism works.no two people are the same and the same goes for ASD. Yes they share the same core difficulties (3 triads of impairments) but how it affects them in specific areas is individual. I'm guessing the OP has a form of high functioning autism,its very common people in this category to be quite intelligent but struggle terribly with social interaction/communication/acceptable behaviour.

What advice have you given to the OP regarding their situation? Have you ever lived with autism? When you have witnessed people with autism/family members/your own child being aggressive,smashing their face against a wall,randomly attacking you,causing so much damage to property they put their own lives in danger and not even realise you'd soon change your tune.

I never ever condone aggressive behaviour or think it's right,but it can take years /decades to break those cycles and address causes/change behaviour in ASD

I thought my post made this obvious.

My advice is to control his behaviour and learn actions have consequences.

This place isn't suitable for him. They do not wish to house a person with violent tendancies - which will also mean they don't have the skills or facilities to manage such behaviour.

Just because op may have a conditon which explains his behaviour doesn't give him extra rights to live in a place whereby the LL doesn't want him.

He should find new accomodation within a facility able to manage his behaviour if he is unable to take steps to correct it.