Can my wife claim?

pliusas

sorry, my english, probably, not the best, so cant understand
if my partner is a worker, he earns more than enouh to support family, we have savings 16k+ etc and I am sitting at home with small child, so I am his family member and dont need to pay for nhs (how I can find in cab website), or I am SS and need to have csi and pay for nhs? we are both eea nationals

FBaby

Clearly some conflicting views, but the reference below which is the closest to the OP's current situation seems to indicate that they are entitled, unless ruling have changed again since last August?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-route-applications/eea-family-permit-and-nhs-service-entitlement-t171504.html

Self-sufficient person - The EEA national must be able to show evidence that they have sufficient resources not to become a burden on the social assistance system and have comprehensive sickness insurance cover. There is no fixed amount that is regarded as ‘sufficient resources’. The personal situation of each applicant must be taken into account. Self-sufficient person - The EEA national must be able to show evidence that they have sufficient resources not to become a burden on the social assistance system and have comprehensive sickness insurance cover. There is no fixed amount that is regarded as ‘sufficient resources’. The personal situation of each applicant must be taken into account.

A EHIC card is considered comprehensive sickness insurance.

bloolagoon

FBaby wrote: »

Clearly some conflicting views, but the reference below which is the closest to the OP's current situation seems to indicate that they are entitled, unless ruling have changed again since last August?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-route-applications/eea-family-permit-and-nhs-service-entitlement-t171504.html



A EHIC card is considered comprehensive sickness insurance.

I don't know about other countries but EHIC stops the day you live overseas. You aren't resident in the UK.

[Deleted User]

FBaby wrote: »

Clearly some conflicting views, but the reference below which is the closest to the OP's current situation seems to indicate that they are entitled, unless ruling have changed again since last August?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/eea-route-applications/eea-family-permit-and-nhs-service-entitlement-t171504.html



A EHIC card is considered comprehensive sickness insurance.

EHIC is issued to residents of a country for visits to another. Once you are resident elsewhere the EHIC is not valid, generally after being there 3 months.

MissMoneypenny

FBaby wrote: »

A EHIC card is considered comprehensive sickness insurance.

Two different things. The UK has changed a lot since you moved to the UK under EU free movement laws.

That above is for proof that they had healthcover when they apply to UKVI (UK visa and immigration) for PR in the UK to prove they have been a qualified person in the UK for 5 continual years: but they still can't use the NHS for free as they are then an "undue burden" to the UK and they are not allowed to be that under EU laws and it is a refusal of PR.

To use the NHS, they must either use their private CSI to pay for everything (even for exisiting conditions) or can get their own EEA country to pay when they are visiting the UK by using their EHIC, but they still need to pay in full for anything their own country won't pay for i.e. a planned birth in the UK is not covered on an EHIC. EU citizens need to read their own countries EHIC site to see what medical treatment they will pay the UK for. Most will tell their citizens to take out private insurance also and not to rely on the EHIC as it won't cover everything.

For the UK, it was quite well known that the NHS (and therefore UKVI) can't check if they have used the NHS for free when they should have paid. There were plenty of posts from people telling others not to bother to claim on their CSI or to pay the NHS, as the NHS (and therefore UKVI) can't check. That all changed with the new laws, new systems and UKVI being linked to other systems such as the NHS, HNRC, police to now be able to check whether the applicant is using deception.

MissMoneypenny

bloolagoon wrote: »

I don't know about other countries but EHIC stops the day you live overseas. You aren't resident in the UK.

Sometimes an Student Qualified Person may be able to get their own EU country to pay via their EHIC by saying they are only temporary in the other EEA country while they study. But they have the same problem: that their EHIC won't cover planned births on the NHS and won't cover a lot of other things also, which means they have to pay their own medical bills which could run into thousands if they don't have a Comprehensive Sickness Insurance.

Now the NHS can check, it's a big risk for a foreign national to be in the UK without medical insurance. People won't be refused life saving treatment and births, but anything off the A&E ward will be billed and the NHS now seem to be using the courts to chase the debtors, as well as informing UKVI.

Before Cameron became PM in 2010, the then UK government gave free NHS to every EU citizen and their family members who moved to the UK even if they never worked and the NHS couldn't check if they were just here to visit and should pay. It's a massive change for EU citizens in the UK.

MissMoneypenny

_shel wrote: »

EHIC is issued to residents of a country for visits to another. Once you are resident elsewhere the EHIC is not valid, generally after being there 3 months.

If an EU citizen wants to present their own countries EHIC for full or partial payment of their NHS bill, it isn’t the UK's problem if they want to abuse their own EEA country and get them to pay. All the UK cares is that the UK doesn't pay. There was talk of the UK adding 25% to EU citizen NHS bills which the NHS can keep, but I don’t know if that has started yet.


With the new UK law to make it easy to bill other EEA countries when their EHIC is used in the UK, some EEA countries with millions of their citizens in the UK will be in for a big shock when their NHS bills for multi millions start to arrive. The UK rarely billed them before as they didn’t have the system to do it.

MissMoneypenny

pliusas wrote: »

sorry, my english, probably, not the best, so cant understand
if my partner is a worker, he earns more than enouh to support family, we have savings 16k+ etc and I am sitting at home with small child, so I am his family member and dont need to pay for nhs (how I can find in cab website), or I am SS and need to have csi and pay for nhs? we are both eea nationals

When you say partner, are you married? Or have been living together as husband and wife for at least 2 years?

All the time the EU spouse is in work, and earning enough to pay his NICs (National Insurance Contributions) each week, the family can use the NHS for free.

Watch for an increase in the minimum earnings the UK may bring in for EU workers to be a qualified person, and any other changes for EU citizens.

The CAB website isn't alwasy correct. i.e. they have that British citizens who receive a state pension and live outside the EU, can use the NHS for free when they visit, but that ended in April 2015.

FBaby

Two different things. The UK has changed a lot since you moved to the UK under EU free movement laws.

Not sure why you have to -once again- refer to my personal situation. I am not posting on the basis of my own experience, so it's totally irrelevant.

OP, I have found this current information which I think relates most to the situation of your wife:

http://www.maternityaction.org.uk/wp/advice-2/mums-dads-scenarios/3-women-from-abroad/entitlement-to-free-nhs-maternity-care-for-women-from-abroad/

pliusas

We are not married, just living together as a couple more than 2 years. And he pays NI every month, earns £26k.