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JSA when training or are you forced to accept unpaid training?

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  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,099 Forumite
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    theone999 wrote: »
    The matter has resolved itself. I wrote a very legalistic and formal letter to HR outlining my position and raising several points of contention relating to theirs. They amicably and mutually agreed that it was not for me and the matter will progress no further. The least my years of education can do for me.

    It is unhelpful to portray anyone who does not want to take unpaid training or like to clean toilets as a "skivver" and not a "striver". If they offered me the job of cleaning toilets I would have accepted even though I do not like it. The entire point of this thread was to ascertain whether it is compulsory.

    Like I said, I'm just passing through and I am trying to the best of abilities to find gainful employment. It's pretty much a rite of passage for graduates these days.

    So why did you post here if you had already written a letter and received a reply?
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    pmlindyloo wrote: »
    So why did you post here if you had already written a letter and received a reply?

    I hadn't. I wrote the email after I made the thread and after I saw your advice and the poster after you to ask for the jobcentre first. It's been nearly 5 hours since i started the thread

    I spent most of today trying to solve this problem.

    I decided against asking for advice from the jobcentre and just went for arguing my case directly to the person/company that posted the advert. They did not contact me officially through Universal Jobsmatch.
  • BoJangles_2
    BoJangles_2 Posts: 878 Forumite
    edited 7 July 2015 at 3:15PM
    theone999 wrote: »
    I'm sorry, so when you are offered to give away 40 hours of your life / labour away for free without even reimbursement costs to gain an interview, not actually a job and be left with no money for the week, you'd not blink twice and think that this is a good deal?

    Why not call it an investment of your time...positive thinking..

    (actually....forget that, obviously a waste of time)
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    pmlindyloo wrote: »
    So why did you post here if you had already written a letter and received a reply?

    And look, I'm a decent and reasonable person, this thread and another thread I made earlier in the week are all because of how companies have shady practices when they deal with poor / disadvantaged jobseekers. They want their cake, and eat it too.

    I don't want to be taken advatange of. I'm like Greece. I want a fair deal.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    theone999 wrote: »
    I'm like Greece. I want a fair deal.
    ...but nobody else wants you :rotfl:
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    lovinituk wrote: »
    ...but nobody else wants you :rotfl:
    only because they haven't met me yet :A
  • paragon909
    paragon909 Posts: 1,498 Forumite
    theone999 wrote: »
    I hadn't. I wrote the email after I made the thread and after I saw your advice and the poster after you to ask for the jobcentre first. It's been nearly 5 hours since i started the thread

    I spent most of today trying to solve this problem.

    I decided against asking for advice from the jobcentre and just went for arguing my case directly to the person/company that posted the advert. They did not contact me officially through Universal Jobsmatch.

    And the next time you sign on, You are going to mention that a company offered you training with a guaranteed interview... Just hope your advisor or "coach" as they call it now isn't a jobs worth.

    Normally when you decline offers from employers while on JSA isn't good.
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    paragon909 wrote: »
    And the next time you sign on, You are going to mention that a company offered you training with a guaranteed interview... Just hope your advisor or "coach" as they call it now isn't a jobs worth.

    Normally when you decline offers from employers while on JSA isn't good.

    Not if it's not a genuine offer of employment. And I am as litigious as they are a jobsworth.
  • BoJangles_2
    BoJangles_2 Posts: 878 Forumite
    paragon909 wrote: »
    And the next time you sign on, You are going to mention that a company offered you training with a guaranteed interview... Just hope your advisor or "coach" as they call it now isn't a jobs worth.

    Normally when you decline offers from employers while on JSA isn't good.

    I wouldn't say jobs worth, I'd say rightly so...
  • paragon909
    paragon909 Posts: 1,498 Forumite
    theone999 wrote: »
    Not if it's not a genuine offer of employment. And I am as litigious as they are a jobsworth.

    Well you are required to list ALL the jobs you have searched for since the last time you signed on. You're suppose to mention what the out come is, Did the employer respond.

    If you applied via universal job match they will see it anyway, You're making out it's a rogue employer?? If so then you should tell DWP or JCP so they can remove it.
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