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JSA when training or are you forced to accept unpaid training?

theone999
theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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edited 7 July 2015 at 10:44AM in Benefits & tax credits
I applied for a job off Universal Jobmatch. I got a call back saying they want me to do 1 week 9-5 of unpaid training, but I get a "guranteed interview", though not a guaranteed job.

As they know I'm claiming, the first question they asked me.

Am I allowed to refuse full time unpaid training not ordered by the Jobcentre that may not necessarily lead to a job and hinder my ability to look for one in the meantime?
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  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,099 Forumite
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    Hopefully someone will come along with the legislation for this.

    Is there any particular reason you don't want to take advantage of this offer?
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    pmlindyloo wrote: »
    Hopefully someone will come along with the legislation for this.

    Is there any particular reason you don't want to take advantage of this offer?

    I'm sorry, so when you are offered to give away 40 hours of your life / labour away for free without even reimbursement costs to gain an interview, not actually a job and be left with no money for the week, you'd not blink twice and think that this is a good deal?

    Sarcasm aside, if I am not compelled by law/legislation to do this, then I need to give no further reasons. I have already checked my Claimant Agreement, it does not say anything like this, and from it's wording, I believe I'm not compelled to accept this.
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    What else are you planning to do with those 40 hours of your life?

    Can you give us further details of the training - it does sound odd but it's not possible to give further advice without more information.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    If that's allowed, I'm off to UJ to advertise for a gardener, decorator, cleaner .....
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    tomtontom wrote: »
    What else are you planning to do with those 40 hours of your life?

    Can you give us further details of the training - it does sound odd but it's not possible to give further advice without more information.

    Once again, why should that matter.

    If prima facie one is not so compelled, then that alone would suffice.
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    If that's allowed, I'm off to UJ to advertise for a gardener, decorator, cleaner .....

    The OP isn't being asked to do a job unpaid, he has been asked to do some training - which may or may not be helpful in him securing employment. Whether there is any value to this training we don't know, because the OP seems more focused on how to keep his benefits than exploring opportunities to help himself.
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5280288

    Is this the job? If so it has already been suggested to you that this is not a legitimate opportunity.
  • theone999
    theone999 Posts: 203 Forumite
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    tomtontom wrote: »
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5280288

    Is this the job? If so it has already been suggested to you that this is not a legitimate opportunity.

    No that is not it. I took people's advice and decided not to go for it.

    Also, may I point out that this is not an offer of employment, it is an offer of full time unpaid training. An offer of interview should not be simultaneously in conjuction with full time unpaid training, that fact alone would suggest at the present moment in time, I do not have the skills required to do such a job and did I know so, would not have saw fit to apply to such an ad. As I do not have those skills, that job and it's kind could not be in my claimant agreement.

    It is somewhat false advertising to advertise for jobs but make no mention of compulsory training.
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    theone999 wrote: »
    No that is not it. I took people's advice and decided not to go for it.

    Also, may I point out that this is not an offer of employment, it is an offer of full time unpaid training. An offer of interview should not be simultaneously in conjuction with full time unpaid training, that fact alone would suggest at the present moment in time, I do not have the skills required to do such a job and did I know so, would not have saw fit to apply to such an ad. As I do not have those skills, that job and it's kind could not be in my claimant agreement.

    It is somewhat false advertising to advertise for jobs but make no mention of compulsory training.

    But, if you do this training, you will have the skills and this will open up opportunities for you.

    Most people would consider this a good thing, so I'm puzzled why you don't.
  • Is the training something that will benefit you gain other jobs? Like a Hygiene certificate or something for working in catering?

    Is the potential employer covering expenses, including travel and lunch?

    If these two were a yes, I'd go for it. If either is a no I'd stay away. Sorry I can't answer the question about whether you are compelled to attend.
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