Could you help me chose my new Laptop?

enfield_freddy

I think at the moment windows 10 will only be a free "upgrade" , ie , you install it after a win 7 or win 8 install , and if you were using 7/8 at 32 bit , the upgade would be to the same , NOT to 64 bit.


unless you go out and buy a new copy of win 10

Jivesinger

dannyrst wrote: »

Am I wrong in thinking that Windows 10 will provide a 64 bit and 32 bit installer to all that qualify for a free upgrade?

I don't think we know yet.

The main route for people to upgrade to Windows 10 will be by running some software to update your current installation of Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10, and I'm pretty certain it will be the same "bit-ness" as whatever was running before.

Once you've upgraded installed that and activated on your hardware, Microsoft have said you'll then be able to do a clean install, at which point you might be able to switch from 32- bit to 64-bit, but that's a guess - the details aren't confirmed yet.

dannyrst

in any event. I wouldn't bother doing any re-installing of Win 7 until Win 10 has come out. Save yourself the time!

NiftyDigits

dannyrst wrote: »

Firstly, is there any point in doing all of this at the moment? You probably would find it easier to do all this work on the release of Windows 10 to avoid re-installing Windows just to do it all again in a few weeks.

Secondly, have we established that you need to purchase anything yet? (i.e. have you checked how many programs you have installed, defragged the machine?)

It is entirely possible that, as you said earlier, being one of the many people in this country with little to no knowledge of IT, you are running a PC that performs terribly because you aren't aware of the basic housekeeping tasks.

An SSD would improve the loading time of Windows (assuming you install windows onto the SSD) and would do the same for any other program you install on the SSD. But is the loading time of your applications really an issue? I'd highly recommend completing some easy to do clean up tasks before you start buying SSD's or anything else.

Liken it to a home. When you use the dishes, they sit on the side waiting to be cleaned. You could go to a shop and buy new dishes, which you can then use without any effort. Or you could wash the dishes to be re-used again.

Am I wrong in thinking that Windows 10 will provide a 64 bit and 32 bit installer to all that qualify for a free upgrade?

I certainly won't be installing Windows 10 to my machine for at least a year. I didn't bother to install Windows 8 at all.

It's true that the OP could probably solve most issues with a clean up, but upgrading to 64 bit makes for a more secure machine anyway and a bit of hands on maintenance will add to the OP's confidence and improve the machine's performance considerably.
Personally, I don't think extra RAM is at all necessary. The SSD and a clean install will more than suffice.

NiftyDigits

dannyrst wrote: »

in any event. I wouldn't bother doing any re-installing of Win 7 until Win 10 has come out. Save yourself the time!

We don't agree. Why be a guinea pig?

dannyrst

A guinea pig would be the thousands that tested it over the last several months.

Obviously it isn't going to be spot on, but for what the OP wants to use his PC for, he'll have no issues with an upgrade on day 1.

Do you really think Microsoft are stupid enough to release a buggy OS after the massive flop that was Windows 8?

NiftyDigits

dannyrst wrote: »

A guinea pig would be the thousands that tested it over the last several months.

Obviously it isn't going to be spot on, but for what the OP wants to use his PC for, he'll have no issues with an upgrade on day 1.

Do you really think Microsoft are stupid enough to release a buggy OS after the massive flop that was Windows 8?

Are you suggesting that Windows 8 wasn't tested beforehand?

I certainly won't be taking your advice...and hopefuly the OP won't either. He can use to what he is used and after reading the reviews of Windows 10, he can upgrade whenever he is ready, within the 12 month period.

dannyrst

NiftyDigits wrote: »

Are you suggesting that Windows 8 wasn't tested beforehand?

I certainly won't be taking your advice...and hopefuly the OP won't either. He can use to what he is used and after reading the reviews of Windows 10, he can upgrade whenever he is ready, within the 12 month period.

Oh dear. You must have missed my point completely. Of course I'm not suggesting Windows 8 wasn't tested. That would never happen. I'm not even saying Windows 8 was full of bugs (I'm not aware as I don't use Windows 8). I'm saying Windows 8 was horrendously put together for non touchscreen devices. Microsoft aren't stupid enough to make that mistake twice. They'll have done extra testing to ensure it is more user friendly.

If you don't take my advice, that's fine. I have no idea who you are or what you use a computer for. From the limited knowledge I have of the OP, he uses his PC for emails, work and presumably the odd bit of internet browsing. Nothing more than the average PC user.

To suggest there would be an issue with him upgrading from day 1 to Windows 10 is ridiculous. A company of Microsofts size (particularly after the flop of Windows 8) isn't going to release an OS that doesn't work on basic tasks like what the OP is using his machine for. I'd be surprised if most basic tasks like those have even changed much from Windows 7/8/8.1.

Naturally, the OP can refuse the advice if he so wishes, but I'm suggesting rather than re-installing Windows twice, he can simply do it once straight to Windows 10.

enfield_freddy

without actually buying a retail copy of win 10 , how can he (as you say " he can simply do it once straight to Windows 10. "


win 10 that is available "free" is an UPGRADE that goes over win 7 or 8.


I would suggest the OP removes his hard drive , fits a ssd , then installs a win 7/8 64 bit version , THEN < AND ONLY IF HE WISHES , he can UPGRADE to win 10 , if it cocks up , he can put his old drive back in , until he has time to resolve problems

Jivesinger

dannyrst wrote: »

To suggest there would be an issue with him upgrading from day 1 to Windows 10 is ridiculous. A company of Microsofts size (particularly after the flop of Windows 8) isn't going to release an OS that doesn't work on basic tasks like what the OP is using his machine for. I'd be surprised if most basic tasks like those have even changed much from Windows 7/8/8.1.

I have been playing with the test versions of Windows 10 for a while. Overall I think it's a step in the right direction, and eventually I'll be upgrading. For one thing I believe it will offer users of 'Windows 8.1 with Bing' a way of clean installing, which is welcome.

But there are still several bugs, even in the test version that was just released yesterday. My view is that there's a lot to iron out before it will be robust and stable. The upgrade mechanism from Windows 7/8.1 doesn't seem finished in my experience and I think there's a risk there too, especially as the final version will probably work differently to the test versions (where everyone shares the same product keys that expire in October, which won't happen with the 'live' release).

Come 29th July, although I may upgrade my old laptop I've been using for testing to the latest version of Windows 10, the laptop I use for actually getting stuff done will stay on 8.1 for a while.

For most people there's no rush and no advantage to be gained by being at the leading edge, and I think there will still be a risk that things might not work smoothly for everyone.