Tower Road, Newquay

Parkrage

I'm planning on writing a follow-up letter to Newquay Golf Club criticising their lack of courtesy in replying to my original letter, and perhaps pointing out that it's been noticed that they've failed to respond to other peoples' complaints/requests to have the charges cancelled. Also to point out that the fact that PE are cancelling PCNs for similar situations, before they get to POPLA is tacit admission that they're on shaky ground in pursuing these claims. Also to ask why they don't just instal 'pay on exit' barriers to save themselves the bad publicity, to avoid visitors to Newquay receiving a bad experience, avoid the bad effect it's undoubtedly having on Newquay's tourism industry etc etc. I'm considering writing it as an open letter, posting it also on the Newer Newquay Facebook page. Wonder if anyone can suggest a suitable form of words/tone/ extra comments I should put in? Manyt thanks in anticipation. :-)

Castle

The reason the golf club doesn't have pay on exit barriers is because it's used by the members and day visitors who play golf. They could of course have barriers with a code for use by golfers; which many other golf clubs have, although a lot of these tend to get broken.

Parkrage

Yes, Tesco in my town have a coded exit barrier, to enable taxis to pick customers up from the rear entrance/exit.

Parkrage

Just had the following email from BPA.I'm concerned by the final sentence since, as this was a 'paid' car park, the Beavis case is irrelevant! Wondering whether to reply, and say as much, or just 'wait and see':

"Following intervention by the Independent Scrutiny Board for Parking Appeals (ISPA), the British Parking Association (BPA) has re-considered its previous position regarding 3,500 POPLA appeals that were put on hold until the ParkingEye vs Beavis Supreme Court case judgment.

A new and independent service provider will now consider these appeals in their entirety, not purely on the basis of genuine pre-estimate of loss; additionally ISPA has appointed two new auditors to oversee the work to ensure judicial independence is maintained. The decision making process will commence shortly and it is anticipated that motorists should start receiving the outcome of their cases next month.

Chief Executive Patrick Troy says “We have considered carefully the new evidence drawn to our attention by ISPA, which was established by the BPA to oversee the independence of POPLA; This new evidence has caused us to look at this issue again and to revise the way in which these adjourned cases will be considered.. This must be the best outcome for motorists who can be confident that they will get a complete, fair and independent review of their Appeal following the Supreme Courts’ decision which confirms that the current charging level is lawful and reasonable and motorists parking on private land must comply with the advertised terms and conditions".

Redx

this "on hold" topic has been debated on here and pranksters blogs for some time and he blogged about it this week stating that all the appeals on hold will be reassessed by SOMEBODY

so that will be why they have written to you and the other thousands of people with outstanding popla appeals

see the FREE THE 4000 thread about the old "black hole" cases on hold pending Beavis

popla are already reviewing what the Beavis case amounts to for their decisions, irrespective of the 4000 or so old "stayed cases"

pappa_golf

Redx wrote: »

this "on hold" topic has been debated on here and pranksters blogs for some time and he blogged about it this week stating that all the appeals on hold will be reassessed by POPLA

so that will be why they have written to you and the other thousands of people with outstanding popla appeals

see the FREE THE 4000 thread about the old "black hole" cases on hold pending Beavis

popla are already reviewing what the Beavis case amounts to for their decisions, irrespective of the 4000 or so old "stayed cases"

A new and independent service provider will now consider these appeals




so not POPLa , or even London councils?




I smell beef?

Redx

no idea until they tell us, but I would have thought the job would be given to the new POPLA, and definitely not the IAS

we will know for sure when the BPA put the newsletter on their website

or not

Following intervention by the Independent Scrutiny Board for Parking Appeals (ISPA), the BPA has re-considered its previous position regarding 3,500 POPLA appeals that were put on hold until the ParkingEye vs Beavis Supreme Court case judgment.
A new and independent service provider will now consider these appeals in their entirety, not purely on the basis of genuine pre-estimate of loss; additionally ISPA has appointed two new auditors to oversee the work to ensure judicial independence is maintained.
Chief Executive Patrick Troy says “We have considered carefully the new evidence drawn to our attention by ISPA, which was established by the BPA to oversee the independence of POPLA; this new evidence has caused us to look at this issue again and to revise the way in which these adjourned cases will be considered. This must be the best outcome for motorists who can be confident that they will get a complete, fair and independent review of their Appeal following the Supreme Courts’ decision which confirms that the current charging level is lawful and reasonable, and motorists parking on private land must comply with the advertised terms and conditions.
“Additionally this proves the importance of having a truly independent body overseeing the activities of POPLA.”

pappa_golf

London councils was the old POPLa , Ombudsman services is the Currant POPLa company , and have been for several months , however a NEWLY released letter refers to A new and independent service provider .


ombudsman services are up and running , not "new"




the beef smell was wrong , I was stood at the back of the beast , and just stood in it!

salmosalaris

New POPLA has yet to rule AFAIK wheher Beavis is applicable to paid sites and probably don't want to .
This new fangled appeal service will have less concern making decisions as after this tranch of appeals they will disappear into the ether.
You could write to the BPA and express concern that an unidentified body is apparently responsible for handling your appeal and before you agree to this you want that party identified .
You were offered POPLA , the BPA CoP stated operators had to offer POPLA , authority to issue tickets was dependant upon complying with the CoP . You forfeited the option of paying the discounted charge on the expectation an appeal was to be adjudicated by POPLA .

soton_25

Hopefully if you are one of the 4000 who isn't relying on GPEOL alone and has prima facie POFA2012, Signage, Locus Standi... you will get appeal assessed quickly and fairly by whoever is appointed. No need for assessors to muck about with GPEOL if the appeal can be heard on more obvious slum dunk points.

My guess is that this is what will happen. The slam dunkers will get heard first and the "relying on GPEOL" will get left to the last.